High on chocolate?

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by april on August 8, 2008 at 1:18pm

how cute!

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Zach Zaller on August 8, 2008 at 2:30pm

I havent gotten extremly "high" but got the Zing from eating some cacao beans with a banana on a sort of empty stomach. Its a great alternative to coffee rubbish or caffine tea.
Mate is still the bomb though

I read some where that if you eat enough (safely....) you get an super estactic feeling, or eat ~twice that its like a hallucinogen. I haven't had the urge to eat that much, but I did give a handful of beans to a friend at the river and after he jumped off some high rocks (shot of adreneline) afterward he said he almost felt like he was on mushrooms....He might have just been high. ;-p

Maca is great in cacao drinks....ive yet to try the traditional blend with vanilla bean and peppers though.

~ZZ~

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by april on August 8, 2008 at 3:11pm

AHAHAHAHA.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Zach Zaller on August 8, 2008 at 4:14pm

The best cacao Ive had is from www.organiclivingfood.com , the beans are barely even bitter and still purple inside, they also have awsome powder. They are the "Ariba Nacional" all you really need to know is ariba=high

I also heard that milk proteins bind to the antioxidants in choclate making them null!

I think this info will help explain the full brain chemistry going on.....


" More than 300 different constituent compounds in chocolate have been identified. Chocolate clearly delivers far more than a brief sugar high. Yet its cocktail of psychochemical effects in the central nervous system are poorly understood. So how does it work?

CHOCOLATE : the Psychoactive Cocktail
Chocolate contains small quantities of anandamide, an endogenous cannabinoid found in the brain. Sceptics claim one would need to consume several pounds of chocolate to gain any very noticeable psychoactive effects; and eat a lot more to get fully stoned. Yet it's worth noting that N-oleolethanolamine and N-linoleoylethanolamine, two structural cousins of anandamide present in chocolate, both inhibit the metabolism of anandamide. It has been speculated that they promote and prolong the feeling of well-being induced by anandamide.

Chocolate contains caffeine. But the caffeine is present only in modest quantities. It is easily obtained from other sources. Indeed a whole ounce of milk chocolate contains no more caffeine than a typical cup of "decaffeinated" coffee.

Chocolate's theobromine content may contribute to - but seems unlikely to determine - its subtle but distinctive psychoactive profile. Surprisingly, perhaps, recent research suggests that pure theobromine may be superior to opiates as a cough medicine due to its action on the vagus nerve.

Chocolate also contains tryptophan. Tryptophan is an essential amino acid. It is the rate-limiting step in the production of the mood-modulating neurotransmitter serotonin. Enhanced serotonin function typically diminishes anxiety. Yet tryptophan can normally be obtained from other sources as well; and only an unusually low-protein, high-carbohydrate meal will significantly increase its rate of intake into the brain.

Like other palatable sweet foods, consumption of chocolate triggers the release of endorphins, the body's endogenous opiates. Enhanced endorphin-release reduces the chocolate-eater's sensitivity to pain. Endorphins probably contribute to the warm inner glow induced in susceptible chocoholics.

Acute monthly cravings for chocolate amongst pre-menstrual women may be partly explained by its rich magnesium content. Magnesium deficiency exacerbates PMT. Before menstruation, too, levels of the hormone progesterone are high. Progesterone promotes fat storage, preventing its use as fuel; elevated pre-menstrual levels of progesterone may cause a periodic craving for fatty foods. One study reported that 91% of chocolate-cravings associated with the menstrual cycle occurred between ovulation and the start of menstruation. Chocolate cravings are admitted by 15% of men and around 40% of women. Cravings are usually most intense in the late afternoon and early evening.

Cacao and chocolate bars contain a group of neuroactive alkaloids known as tetrahydro-beta-carbolines. Tetrahydro-beta-carbolines are also found in beer, wine and liquor; they have been linked to alcoholism. But the possible role of these chemicals in chocolate addiction remains unclear.

One UK study of the human electroencephalographic (EEG) response to chocolate suggests that the odour of chocolate significantly reduces theta activity in the brain. Reduced theta activity is associated with enhanced relaxation. This study needs replication.

Perhaps chocolate's key ingredient is its phenylethylamine (PEA) "love-chemical". Yet the role of the "chocolate amphetamine" is disputed. Most if not all chocolate-derived phenylethylamine is metabolised before it reaches the CNS. Some people may be sensitive to its effects in very small quantities.

Phenylethylamine is itself a naturally occurring trace amine in the brain. Phenylethylamine releases dopamine in the mesolimbic pleasure-centres; it peaks during orgasm. Taken in unnaturally high doses, phenylethylamine can produce stereotyped behaviour more prominently even than amphetamine. Phenylethylamine has distinct binding sites but no specific neurons. It helps mediate feelings of attraction, excitement, giddiness, apprehension and euphoria; but confusingly, phenylethylamine has also been described as an endogenous anxiogen. One of its metabolites is unusually high in subjects with paranoid schizophrenia. "

-chocolate.org

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by BADASH climber on August 8, 2008 at 4:23pm

Hm, do you eat it on an empty stomach?

I have much experience with being HIGH ;)

and raw cacao made me very high when i eat a certain amount of it on an EMPTY stomach -- cacao/banana smoothies mostly, but with a lot of cacao.

its... crazy

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by idarastar on August 8, 2008 at 7:05pm

Okay. I was skeptical at first. I just ate cacao nibs on an empty stomach and I'm feeling a little funny. :-) *lol*

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Perkunas on August 8, 2008 at 6:05pm

What a brilliant jumble is human curiosity....I mean we love looking for the answers of the unnecessary questions or trying to refute what does not need to be refuted... I asked to my little brothers the Capuchin Monkey, spider monkey and squirel monkey about the dings and dangs and hips and highs of the cacao make me high, make me bright, I fall sleep under the tree stuff ....they were too busy too answer, they were eating the ripe cacao fruits with voracity.. ;-)
you are right...we go around they subject so many times that we end it up dizzy
monkey mama

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jennifer on August 8, 2008 at 7:22pm

One time I made a super cacao drink after not having any cacao for months and I was really happy and giddy about life...I was in such a blissful state that I forgot to turn off my tea kettle and it melted the handle and all of this plastic started melting and my entire house was filled with noxious plastic gas fumes and THEN I WAS HIGH! ( and not in a good way. I felt BAD)

Anyway, since that day I eat a nice little cacao/honey/agave blob everyday and I absolutely LOVE it. I carry it im my purse hehehheeeee

It's so nice to let the cacao melt in my mouth and feel the calming affect take over. I never get stimulated, it makes me tired. That's why I try not to have it too early in the day, otherwise I am feeling lazy lol.

My motto is " there's always room for chocolate!"
Hell yeah.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Corina on August 8, 2008 at 8:13pm

I like your motto!

My new obsession is the golgi brittle by transition nutrition http://www.royalhimalayan.com/
it is amazing stuff.

I have defiantly been high on this chocolate before, empty stomach may be the key though if that is what you are going for.

I feel like durian makes me high though, in a sort of sedative, way. I feel when I eat it fresh on an empty stomach everything is amplified, like colors are brighter touch feels better ect. I feel like being raw gives you those things as well. Just in general I kind of feel like I am "high" all the time.
It's that love, earthy sort of high!
People always tell me my eyes radiate and they can tell I am healthy or I do something different, which is neat.

Jennifer- do you use cacao nibs or powder? just wondering

<3

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Corina on August 9, 2008 at 8:25pm

I'm down :)

<3

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by KarmaFree Kale Chips on August 9, 2008 at 8:36pm

Come with me to Hawaii - I will put all of your considerations aside
and give you a REAL EXPERIENCE - that is unlike any you have ever had before -
when it comes to the real deal - and I mean REALLY RAW cacao - yes -
when Euphoria hits - all questions drop away .

so much love,
KF

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by KarmaFree Kale Chips on August 9, 2008 at 9:06pm

inviting - yes indeed.
pure experience
with no mind - no thought
just cacao pods, you, me and the light of the full moon.
join me there :))
oh and your handsome husband too .... :))

▶ Reply to This

• 1
• 2
• 3
• 4
• 5
• 6