Fats and Oil, is one better? Is there purpose for them in adults?

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 12, 2008 at 1:06am

Hi DurianRider,

Fair enough. Thank you for the response.

True, no oil in nature. I was whole food vegan at first. The only fats I had in my diet at the time was what naturally came in the bran in nature from the rice I ate, and whatever fat was in a few nuts. There was no oil in my salad nor my (ripe) fruit (no avocados grew by me at the time). I took a dose of vitamin E, and my periods came back immediately. I don't like oils, but they have helped me on at least one occasion. I've had no reason to eat agave. It doesn't look natural to me unless it's in the plant. Honey I stayed away from for years. I didn't like the smell + it isn't vegan. I eat it now (which I hadn't mentioned above on this topic) for health building reasons. Did I say sweet fruit is bad? I may have said sweet fruit is 'bad' on the diet I am doing (in a previous post). Glad I prompted you to laugh out loud, beautiful!

We? I did natural hygeine from scratch. Went to a reputable fasting supervisor, a reputable fasting retreat, did refeeding as I was told, continued on the fruit diet, it was bad for me. At which point a famous fasting nh supervisor medical doctor and author gave me bum advice to eat non-vegan cooked food, vegan cooked food and raw vegan fatty food. Well the raw vegan fatty part was ok. Everyone who can do fruit, my pleasure, please go ahead. I am human and will try not to insist another human hurt themselves. This is a raw website, not a milkless website, so I have every right here to eat any raw food.

Tell me all about menstruation and ovulation. When was your last period?

I asked for personal stories fat vs oil, which is better for you. What harm has fat or oil caused you personally Durian?

Thank you,
Have a wonderful night :)


-Rawzi

PS I did pose the question if there's a purpose for either in adults though, so you got me there too! Sorry. I guess I was coming from people saying stupid stuff like: "i like to eat eggwhite (products), that way i don't have to feel guilty for the yolks (fat)". Guilty or not, an egg is an egg to me, no matter which part.

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 12, 2008 at 1:35am

Here, he posted this four hours after you:
by John Coleman 9 hours at 3:36pm on June 11th, 2008 ago

I don't like to keep comparing to chimps, but as they are 99.4% genetically identical they make an obvious choice.

There is a citation here about their mentrual cycle http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Pan.... So we can be sure bleeding is natural

find it here

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 12, 2008 at 2:02am

"still ovulate but dont menstruate. unless they eat toxic raw foods like rancid nuts, oils etc."

Do they conceive? Some women are raw vegan for many years straight no nuts, but they still bleed a little, how do you explain this? Isn't being with a woman who never bleeds like being with a little girl?

"that nh person you fasted with gave you the wrong advice. doug graham is the only "

I fasted with one. The one who told me to eat cooked eggs was the author. I've never met Doug Graham, but I do not have the opportunity.

"until we have given 811rv (and with is associated lifestyle changes) a fair crack "

I'm not telling you not to give 811rv a fair crack. I cannot go further with that.

"personally for me, i scored my partner cos i promised acres of sweet fruit"

mazel tov!

"animal diets leave us feeling like the animals we thrash...exploited"

Have you ever had to try the Primal Diet?

"only when we truly open our hearts to the feelings of other sentient creatures can we feel the love"

I have been vegan many years, for the animals, as I knew it was healthy before I found out about animal suffering, but knowing it was healthy for me didn't change me. Knowing animals suffer knocked me right into veganism. I have done all raw vegan, it was wonderful. I have done all fruit, it was appropriate for a time and somewhat awesome. No more for me.

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Permalink Reply by Marte on June 12, 2008 at 2:54pm

Just out of curiosity (and not to spark a big discussion), how long were you on 811?

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 2:28pm

"raw animal products is just another eating disorder. cos you couldnt actually go out in nature in public and do it."

I eat raw eggs in public.

"DOES THAT REALLY GET YOU SALIVATING?"

Salivation is for starches and for rabies.

"you can go and grab a tuna, salmon, sardine or goldfish and snap it open like a stick of celery off the plant. you can go a suck a random animals tit..no its gotta be processed foods"

Dogs are omnivores, they eat roadkill. Humans are weak compared to most animals, but we have brains (yes! made of fat and protected by fat) and thumbs so we can make tools and use them to scrape residual meat off bones after a lion has it's share.

"please film"

Film is made of animal gelatin. So you get your voyeuristic jollies watching people eat raw flesh? Come to my home, please!!!!!!!!

"mastitus pus ozzing"

Healthy animals don't have that. I gave milk from my "teets" 4 years straight several x/day 7d/365, never had mastitis nor oozing even once, no antibiotics nor garlic nor echinacea nor goldenseal either. This all after having been raised on meat just a few years before, and never had an enema. Never a 100% raw diet for one meal let alone a prolonged period unless you include fasting..

"snap it open like a stick of celery off the plant"

.. (not fruit nor celery fasting) in that equation. Never had organically grown nor wild greens nor fruit ever until several years after weening. I couldn't afford it financially and didn't know anything about wheatgrass nor outdoor gardening nor fresh herbs nor how to sprout right. Sorry to burst this particular bubble of yours Durian.

"dirty, mastitus pus ozzing bovine teet in their mouth"

And nipples don't have to be washed before every feeding, as raw skin is not dirty. I never passed an infection either.

"dont menstruate" "i scored my partner cos i promised" "there is no oil in nature. oil is just refined fat"

You insist your woman have no period, do you insist no tits too? Is she allowed to have any fat at all somewhere in her body? Maybe high body testosterone levels allows a person like you not to need fat. Is she allowed to keep any of her body hair where it grows? Or doesn't it?

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 11:43pm

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lol, that looks like me yesterday, i stopped by a mulberry tree in front of somebody's house and ate my fill (there were no eggs), with plenty to spare. it was just staining their sidewalk anyway. people walking and driving by may have thought i was nuts to eat free growing fruit, if they did, their prob.

"save pigs, eat figs!"

i tried figs, a couple of weeks after waterfasting, the figs made my throat hurt, i may try pigs next time, they have fat, and my throat feels good with raw meat in it.
save the humans!

Permalink Reply by sarabethxvx on July 15, 2008 at 10:46am

ha! I love it

Permalink Reply by RawZi on July 15, 2008 at 11:15am

Thank you SaraBethXvX

Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 11:37pm

"blue jays eggs? of course not..but we can and DO knock on peoples doors to ask to eat the fruit that is hang'n on the tree...

i salivate before every fruit meal...i only eat what i would in nature"

eggs are in nature, why not? and they do have fat or oil, so they belong on this thread

"dont think you can justify it around me"

i just want to know who likes oils better than fats, and vice versa, what are you doing on my thread?

"pains or mood swings like she used too as a meat muncher."

plenty of meat munchers don't get discomfort either, and plenty of vegans and vegetarians do.
get her to talk here instead of you for her, does she know English or any of the other common languages on GI2MR?

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 28, 2008 at 3:24pm

'... SALIVATING?

anyone watched a goat kid suckling mum? DOES THAT REALLY GET YOU SALIVATING?

anyone go for a long run on the beach and see a washed up catfish or squid..DOES THAT REALLY GET YOU SALIVA...'

So much salivation. Sounds like rabies. Dogs salivate a lot. They do so to keep their glands clean after licking everything in creation and its excretions. They don't need to eat fats as much as cats do, in general. Cats rarely salivate. They have fats to help clean them after lick fests. As a matter of fact, if a cat does get a bothersome hair ball in their throat stomach or intestine, a healthy dose of good raw fat helps them clean out. Dogs will eat almost any old carbohydrate. I've never been a big salivator. Doesn't matter how fruity the food nor how young I was, it's not me.

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Permalink Reply by Valine on June 12, 2008 at 1:46am

Forgive me but I thought ovulation meant menstruation was inevitable?

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 12, 2008 at 1:53am

He just meant some raw vegan women don't lose any blood from their privates for years during the time women are supposed to be able conceive.

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