food poisoning(?)

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Permalink Reply by Kendra on June 13, 2008 at 11:29am

Hmmmm, I would be interested to see what more experienced raw foodies would say, but I almost wonder if you were detoxing, as opposed to dealing with food poisoning. I know detoxing can be extreme for some people. It just doesn't seem likely that you would get food poisoning from what you were eating.

Anyone else?

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Permalink Reply by br00k on June 13, 2008 at 11:52am

it would be odd if it were detox ..i ate 50-60% raw before, and very unprocessed. and i've felt great for the past two months.... I found out that my boyfriend ate the same bunch of bananas and grapes (only three times as much as me) but didn't get sick. I'm wondering if the nuts were rancid or something...

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Permalink Reply by Matt on June 13, 2008 at 11:46am

Wash your fruits and veggies, you can bet the grocers and growers don't.

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Permalink Reply by br00k on June 13, 2008 at 11:52am

you wash bananas? I never have...

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Permalink Reply by Matt on June 13, 2008 at 2:20pm

True, I don't eat the skin though. I do eat the skin of grapes though and as much as they may say "organic", I don't trust them. Particularly when they don't come from the US.

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 2:45pm

I think a vinegar dilution can help clean insecticides off.

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Permalink Reply by Vince Wendling on June 13, 2008 at 12:38pm

When in doubt..
If you have any questionable foods like the grapes or nuts, throw them into a bowl with water and 'Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide'. This will kill any bacteria that is on them. You will also be able to see how much bacteria was present, by how much the water foams. For a drastic example of this, toss some bulk-bin walnuts in HP water. Bubble bath!

You might be able to find food grade hp at your co-op.

I highly recommend soaking all nuts in that solution before dehydrating and eating them. The less immune system load, from our food, the better.

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Permalink Reply by Vince Wendling on June 13, 2008 at 12:51pm

On a side note. I've learned to limit how much dried fruit I eat, especially in combination with nuts. I've never felt good after that combo...
I stay far away from Nama Shoyu and Miso.
Bee pollen in only the tiniest bits.
All of those have given me the feeling of being food poisoned at times.. Incapacitated for days, I know what it's like.

And if all else fails and you still are concerned that something you ate had bacteria that may poison you. Drink a cup of Apple Cider Vinegar and water. Old remedy.

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 1:09pm

Cooked meat, especially cooked liver is about the only thing that did that to me, even if it was only the slightest unnoticeable residue of cooked meat and no more.

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 13, 2008 at 4:13pm

"I stay far away from Nama Shoyu and Miso."

'Until recently their main use was as histology and blood transfusion reagents, but in the past two decades we have realised that many lectins are (a) toxic, inflammatory, or both; (b) resistant to cooking and digestive enzymes; and (c) present in much of our food. It is thus no surprise that they sometimes cause “food poisoning.”'

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Permalink Reply by br00k on June 13, 2008 at 7:00pm

hmmm.. i haven't eaten meat since I was 12, though I don't remember ever getting sick off it. I did used to get sick as a kid, about once a year, but thought all children did.

interesting about the nama shoyu and miso- I always considered them traditional Japanese foods, and remembered some of the longevity studies always identified a group of people in Japan. I could be remembering this with wild inaccuracy though...

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Permalink Reply by RawZi on June 14, 2008 at 1:27pm

I left something out there, it's the fact they have processed grain/pulse. But, come to think of it, I think Japanese have the highest rate of stomach cancer. If the same internal bodily organ gets insulted enough times, cancer may develop in it. I read a medical thing stating that might be due to eating salt containing foods as much as the do. I think you're referring to the Okinawans (which belongs to Japan). And they do eat quite a bit of plain raw fish on their small island, if I'm not mistaken.

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