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Raw Science: Colon Cleansing and your Friend Mucus

I'm about to take a pretty controversial stance. Colon cleansing is popular in the raw community and many people report amazing benefits from it. But I'm about to say that it isn't for everyone, especially some of the people the colon cleansing industry targets.

Mucus
It's gross looking and excess production can be a sign that something is wrong, but not all mucus is bad. Mucus performs many important functions inside your own body.

Stringy parasite/toxins in the toilet bowl
Many people who have done a colon cleanse see these, but it is not parasites or toxins...it's the dead mucosa layer of your digestive system.

Why not kill it?
This layer protects you from exactly the stuff that colon cleansing is supposed to remove. Intestinal mucosa is the layer that protects from bad bacteria, chemicals, and other molecules that don't belong in your blood stream. It is naturally renewed quite rapidly. Nothing old stays there very long, except for the colony of beneficial bacteria that lives there and helps you. It can take some time to build back up if it's completely killed.

Why kill it?
Some hardy pathogenic bacteria can take of residence. But this is quite rare unless you are immunocompromised.

A better way?
I think a fast or simply eating well can alter your gut ecology beneficially without exposing you to the dangers of living without gut mucosa. Cleansing is probably not a good idea for people with delicate guts.

Cleansing warning
If that layer is gone, you are vulnerable. Be careful in the days after with your diet and try to eat some probiotics. You need to rebuild your mucosa, so try not to eat irritating foods.

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Alex Kasdan Comment by Alex Kasdan on May 14, 2009 at 5:11pm
Anja1, i am really interested in the "YEAST" factor. My mother gets yeast infections like nobodies biz.... and she was told her body is producing too much yeast. Can colonics or a fast help her? she says she went to have a colonoscopy done and the Dr. told her she didnt need one, that her colon walls were clean, is that possible? Thanks
Anja1 Comment by Anja1 on May 6, 2009 at 8:51pm
I am a licensed colon hydo therapist and there will always be information out there to support which ever view you choose. My experience has been that if you are not prone to normal bowel movements increase your greens and fruits, along with plenty of water. Having a colon cleanse periodically will help to flush excess yeast, old fecal matter, and mucus. Any activity in excess can be harmful. Having excess plague in the body is not good.
Ken Comment by Ken on May 6, 2009 at 7:58pm
kinda curious where this information came from.

I guess if the message is just: different strokes for different folks at different times..then that is fine. but this seems pretty much like opinion combined with imagination to me.

I don't know how you define popular, or industry, but the lack of attention to internal environment (not necessarily needed to be facilitated through specific cleansing practices - but certainly knowledge of what kind of diets actually DO cleanse) is actually the reason why most folks go back to old diets and habits. Some end up getting very ill with these mindsets that any old raw diet will take care of these issues.
Joel Comment by Joel on May 6, 2009 at 7:01pm
Are the cilia caked into the layer and "deactivated"?
Wayne Martin Comment by Wayne Martin on May 6, 2009 at 6:03pm
So you see correlations between things...... OK check out the group, Life science:
http://www.giveittomeraw.com/group/conditions4wellness
Mellifera Comment by Mellifera on May 6, 2009 at 5:27pm
Hey Scott, if you have more info I am open! I do know, as a biologist, that mucous membranes are definitely living and present in everything I have dissected for school, including healthy wild animals that died in accidents.

Here is an exampled "Muscularis mucosa of the distal oesophagus of the opossum contains nerves which release acetylcholine and substance P(SP)-like material on field stimulation."

Maybe the opossum was SAD?

For SAD eater, the damage from colon cleansing could be much worse...leaky gut syndrome with molecules from dairy and gluten. Leaky gut is absolutely made worse by damaging the mucosa.

""an increase in permeability of the intestinal mucosa to luminal macromolecules, antigens and toxins associated with inflammatory degenerative and/or atrophic mucosal damage"."

But the odds that you, as a raw foodist, are eating anything truly damaging is much lower.

I'm not going to concede the importance of living mucosa, but thinking about your herbal cleanses reminded me that there is some evidence that wild animals use herbs for purging.

Hey, all I'm saying is gut mucosa belongs there and has a purpose and you should be careful. Mucosa absolutely can be infected too (I had chronic salmonella). I'm open to the idea that cleansing is a good behavior. If your goal is to get rid of things it may be great, if your goal is to repair your battered system (IBD patients or celiacs), maybe it's not so great.

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"Chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes), bonobos (Pan paniscus) and gorillas (Gorilla gorilla) are known to swallow whole and defecate intact leaves. The habit has been shown to be a physical means of purging intestinal parasites."

"Some 39 species have been observed eating soil, which soaks up toxins in the gut and allows the animals to eat poisonous plants without getting sick. Another trick used by chimps is to swallow bristly leaves whole, which irritate their stomachs and induce diarrhoea, flushing out tapeworms and other gut parasites. "

"A lot of that evidence comes from studies on chimpanzees, our closest living relatives. When they get infected, they will sometimes devour leaves and other vegetation they otherwise never touch. In the case of one plant, the chimps have to first peel away an outer covering that is lethally toxic. They go to these lengths, it appears, because eating these plants can cure them of their ills. Some plants can flush parasites out of the gut and others actually fight the pathogens themselves. In fact, when researchers study the plants chimpanzees eat, they discover new compounds that kill bacteria and other pathogens. They look promising as medicines for people. (pdf)."

"A lot of that evidence comes from studies on chimpanzees, our closest living relatives. When they get infected, they will sometimes devour leaves and other vegetation they otherwise never touch. In the case of one plant, the chimps have to first peel away an outer covering that is lethally toxic. They go to these lengths, it appears, because eating these plants can cure them of their ills. Some plants can flush parasites out of the gut and others actually fight the pathogens themselves. In fact, when researchers study the plants chimpanzees eat, they discover new compounds that kill bacteria and other pathogens. They look promising as medicines for people. (pdf)."
Scott Anthony Comment by Scott Anthony on May 6, 2009 at 4:37pm
i would like to respectfully disagree with most of the concerns addressed in this post...

first off, mucosa is not a living organism...it is secreted naturally along the intestinal tract as a thin layer of protection when one eats something the body would rather not digest, including COOKED foods...with poor diet, this mucusa can build up and thicken, turning into what is know as mucoid plaque...the herbal cleanses help to loosen this thickened plaque and release it from our body...the thin protective layer of mucosa will easily return if needed...

a more important protector of unwanted bacteria and pathogens is the hydrochloric acid that saturates broken-down food (chime) before it enters the intestines (where the plaque resides)...a strong HCL is dependent on pH levels and minerals, especially sodium...to suggest that mucoid plaque is our most important defense against unwanted pathogens is missing the importance of HCL and maybe even over-exaggerating the role of mucosa...

i also disagree that there is any danger in living without gut mucosa...it is known to harden and build upon itself over time, as well as being a safe hiding place for parasites...when thickened, it can inhibit the uptake of desired nutrients...

also, to claim that "one is vulnerable" (to what?) by removing mucosa, if that were even possible while still eating cooked food, contradicts everything i have learned about this subject through study and personal experience...i have done several herbal colon cleanses...so i guess i have become vulnerable to being extremely healthy and never getting sick anymore?....

there are other points i could argue against, but i'm hot and i'm going to jump in the pool...

ps...if anyone decides to do an herbal colon cleanse, or an extended fast, be sure your pH levels are adequate before embarking...this can be accomplished by dosing up on food-based minerals during the weeks prior to your cleanse...
Sara Comment by Sara on May 6, 2009 at 3:49pm
Bravo!! I totally agree. No extreme cleansing going on over here.
Mukti Comment by Mukti on May 6, 2009 at 3:41pm
thank you for this, it was divine timing. I am starting a blessed herbs colon cleanse today, and I really don't want to strip out that protective layer. But it is necessary to do the parasite cleanse after wards, which is what this is all about. I think I have a really bad fungal overgrowth or maybe something worse/bigger, and this is the only way I know how to knock it back for real. it was really important for me to be reminded about how I eat afterwards until the layer of mucus re-establishes itself.
mukti

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