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OK, I'm curious. This is addressed to any members of the group.

Answer one or more of the following:

1. Do you want to live without food, or are you just curious about it?

2. If you do want to live without food, do you want this to simply be an option, or do you actually want to never eat again? If it is an option, how much / often would you eat (i.e. one meal a day, one meal a week, liquids only, or regular eating).

3. What is your reason(s) for wanting to live without food?

4. What are you doing to achieve this on a daily basis?

5. When do you hope / expect to be living 100% without food?

6. What do you find to be the greatest challenge in reaching your goals?

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So here are my answers:

1. I definitely want to be able to live without eating food.

2. I'm not sure if it would just be an option or a lifestyle. At this point, I think I'd like to eat once a week, just to stay "connected". I'd probably spend several hours making something gourmet (and raw of course). I would probably shuffle through every raw recipe out there just to keep it fun and interesting. I realize that solid food once you've been living on prana would be difficult to handle, so I would probably do it on a schedule so my body got used to it. Or, I might just eat food direct from the garden / orchard / vineyard.

3. My primary reason is survival. I believe the food supply in the country will collapse and I don't like the idea of counting on my gardening expertise. Yes, I'll have a garden probably, but maybe I'll want to travel or something and not want a garden at some point. Maybe climate change will wipe out what I do grow. Hell, I don't know. My second reason is freedom. I like the idea of not having to be tied to a job or place. I like the idea of being a 100% volunteer. Third, feeling. Prana just feels damn amazing. Fourth, for spiritual and supernatural powers. Digesting food subtracts from our other body and brain functions. Prana is the purest, most direct source of nourishment. And lastly, and this may actually be the main reason, I care about my friends and family, and want to be able to help them continue living if things get bad. So I'm kind of pioneering I guess. I want to be able to teach this to other people.

4. First thing I do when I wake up is qi-gong. I do this for about 20 minutes to clear / clean / empower myself energetically. Next I do the five rites (another 20 minutes). This strengthens and balances the chakras. Then I meditate. I like to do it for an hour, but somedays I am unable. I'd say I average about 20-30 minutes presently. Some of my meditation incorporates conscious breathing. Sometimes I'll work on healing an aspect of myself, sometimes it will be an aspect of others. Next, I will start with something light, like honey or fruit juice. I'm focusing on doing a lot more juices. I'm about 95% raw. Any cooked foods I eat are very light. Lastly, I focus on doing things for others and/or the planet. This is medicine for the ego which I've found is a major blocker in pranic flow.

5. If I were on my own, I could probably hit this within a month, maybe two max, but I am very connected and involved socially, which means that I have a bigger field to shift for this to be a reality for me. I see one year well within the realm of possibilities, though I could be satisfied at even three years. But obviously, the sooner the better.

6. I can't remember what food tastes like, so I have to keep eating it. Physically, I don't feel much hunger, need, or even desire for food, but I do like taste and so I eat all this food for the taste, which I suppose is an emotional / spiritual issue. I believe that as I eat more consciously, and let the taste really sink deep into my psyche, I won't feel a need for it. That, or other more powerful feelings will overwhelm it. I actually am craving the taste much less now then I used to. The desire is there, but not like it used to be. The food just doesn't feel as "full" as it used to. Much like going back to white bread after eating sprouted whole grain.

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I'm looking at trying plant/food aromas, which would include the essential oils of herbs. Not sure what herbs might help in particular . . .

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I'm kicking around this idea that when I want food for emotional / psychological reasons, what I'm really attracted to is the foods' essence, which can be experienced as much (or more) through smell as it can taste. In fact, most of taste IS smell (70-90%).

I usually down spoonfuls of honey just because I love the taste (my gut hates me for it). This morning, I spent most of my time smelling it and only took a few small tastes here and there . . . Seems to be working . . .

Yes, I actually just finished a workshop with David Crow, the founder of Floracopaia, which included Contemplative Aromatherapy, in which we analyzed the psychic affect of many different oils, along with their physical affects . . . VERY interesting . . .

I'll look forward to giving your list a try . . .

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Great post Ryan..I almost thought this group was dead.

1. Do you want to live without food, or are you just curious about it?

Yes, to actually do it.
This seems to be my biggest drive since I first found out about it 3 months ago.

2. If you do want to live without food, do you want this to simply be an option, or do you actually want to never eat again? If it is an option, how much / often would you eat (i.e. one meal a day, one meal a week, liquids only, or regular eating).

To be stable as an inediate.
It would be great to be able to eat something if I felt like it, but from my experimentation, it seems my body won’t allow for that.(it reacts badly if I put solids in after a period of only juicing) It seems to need consistency, whatever diet type it may be.

3. What is your reason(s) for wanting to live without food?
Having stabilised on 811, I found that when I ate less I had more energy. Then I came across the posts by Fruitarian1, & it matched my experience. So I experimented more, mainly with 100% juices, & got even more energy. But also, & unexpectedly, all my chakras opened up. Everyone of them! As well as the ability to consistently feel my subtle body energies. And since spiritual practise is my primary concern, I want to experiment further. Also, for me, its not a matter of doing it for a reason, but my body is simply taking me there.

4. What are you doing to achieve this on a daily basis?
a. Transitioning to first stabilise on 100% juices.
b. Chi-gung
c. Pranayama/breath retention
d. Sungazing
e. Cleansing/colonics
f. Weight training
g. Walking

5 When do you hope / expect to be living 100% without food?
12-18 months

6 What do you find to be the greatest challenge in reaching your goals?
A short term(days 2-7): physiological addiction- of the body to foods (even raw foods & juices)
B longer term: psychological addiction- the emotional cravings for food, as well as the fact that every single feeling has to be felt fully, since there is no food to suppress it.

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Maybe the next stage after achieving "inediate" is an inediate that can eat! :)

I'm starting to think of "addiction" more in terms of "attraction", then I ask myself, what am I REALLY attracted to, and can I get that another, or better way?

I like the idea of being so loaded with prana and so saturated spiritually, that food just seems like eating dirt in comparison to tapping pure source . . .

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1. Do you want to live without food, or are you just curious about it?

want is too strong,,,just curious is too weak,,,it is happening without wanting it to,,,i want to get out of the way and allow it to happen

2. If you do want to live without food, do you want this to simply be an option, or do you actually want to never eat again? If it is an option, how much / often would you eat (i.e. one meal a day, one meal a week, liquids only, or regular eating).

my body only wants liquids,,,i would prefer to never eat again someday soon

3. What is your reason(s) for wanting to live without food?

it isn't a want...it is happening...i feel better when i don't eat food, so that is the reason

4. What are you doing to achieve this on a daily basis?

eating less and less,,,i would benefit by meditating and sungazing more

5. When do you hope / expect to be living 100% without food?

it feels like it is going to happen soon, sometime this year

6. What do you find to be the greatest challenge in reaching your goals?

letting go of my beliefs, accepting that this is really happening and i'm not imagining it

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Nice.

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Hey guys. Nice to find some fun kids to play with here.
Here are my thoughts on these questions.

1. Do you want to live without food, or are you just curious about it?

Do it for sure.

2. If you do want to live without food, do you want this to simply be an option, or do you actually want to never eat again? If it is an option, how much / often would you eat (i.e. one meal a day, one meal a week, liquids only, or regular eating).

When I hear people like Mony Vital and Jasmuheen and HRM say that they "could" go without food "if they wanted" I get a little grin that I try to keep under my breath. As I watched them shoveling slop like the rest of us at raw spirit fest in 07 I just have to wonder if it's all a load of dreams that can't quite make it into the real world.

So I want to really finally get off this stuff we call food. If we say we can but don't, I guess I don't see the value.


3. What is your reason(s) for wanting to live without food?

Just the thought of doing this makes my whole body smile with excitement. When I'm in a good place (not so much right now) if I ask my body if it wants this, all the cells seem to get swept away in in a wave of unanimous applause.
The best answer is from the Indian women in Autobiography of a Yogi who said that it was to show people that we are more than this body. For me it will put to rest the argument between science and religion.

4. What are you doing to achieve this on a daily basis?

Just started a diligent Ashtanga yoga practice (intense).
Been sungazing for 3 years or so (I live in the Pacific Northwest) and am up to just over half an hour using HRM's recommendations.
Juice fasting, water fasting, raw food.
Trying to resolve internal conflicts that create prana blockages.
Making efforts to keep my vibrations high and clean and evict all darkness that still resides in me.
Looking forward to starting a meditation practice.

5. When do you hope / expect to be living 100% without food?

Would love to have this down by the end of the Mayan calendar. But schedules feel like they appeal to my ego rather than the timeless me.

6. What do you find to be the greatest challenge in reaching your goals?

Gluttony - I love food. My little buddy that delivers gastric orgasms and numbs me from all those pesky feelings.
Fear - Still a little scared I would starve to death. Maybe all those who claim to have done this have tricked themselves into believing something that isn't true. The biggest part of me is so excited and hopeful, but the fear and skepticism linger.

Just answering these questions has rekindled my excitement and my whole body is vibrating with giddy excitement cause I know it is part of the agreement I made for this life. Thanks for letting me play!!

Peace all,
Jimmy

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1. Do you want to live without food, or are you just curious about it?
YES

2. If you do want to live without food, do you want this to simply be an option, or do you actually want to never eat again? If it is an option, how much / often would you eat (i.e. one meal a day, one meal a week, liquids only, or regular eating).
in an ideal world i would transcend food entirely. it's hard for me to imagine staying off liquids like water -- but i'm open to the possibility. i imagine myself drinking a small amount of water daily.

3. What is your reason(s) for wanting to live without food?
it seems like the true nature of humanity, also, it would help with ecological problems enormously - if this is true that we dont need food, why would we do it when it's wrecking people's health and the natural world? there would also be more time for physical, mental, musical, artistic, social development, architecture and design and to play in nature!!

4. What are you doing to achieve this on a daily basis?
i am continually praying, meditating, clearing and holding space for the knowing this will emerge in my experience. i have started the practice of only eating from noon to 6 pm - slipped out of it during festival weeks but ready to start again. focusing on berries, herbs and bee pollen. i will be fasting on herbal tea with lemon and raw honey this weekend and plan a three day prayerful water fast which will also be a three day clearning ceremony including enemas later this month.

5. When do you hope / expect to be living 100% without food?
before the end of the year

6. What do you find to be the greatest challenge in reaching your goals?
old subconscious programming and habits related to food - when i get stressed i reach for food.

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