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I've been talking to a man who owns a very large piece of land. He's very interested in developing a part of the land based on permaculture principles. I'm actually going to take a look at the land tomorrow. The place is in a humid seaside location in northern China, and is quite close to where I live. So, it would be very convenient for me to start a permaculture project there. But as a raw vegan who loves munching on fruits, I'd much prefer to develop a piece of land in the tropics. On the top of that, I believe that generally it would be a lot cheaper to develop a site in a tropical region than in a temperate one. At least in China, it seems that the lands in the warm south are generally a lot more fertile than in the north. Also, in order to make the winter months productive in this location, I will at least need to build some some extra heating facilities for homes, and greenhouses to grow food, otherwise, it would not be possible to work on the land, organize courses and workshops during the cold seasons. But all these problems would be non-issues if it was in a tropical location.

I'm not really concerned at all whether I can make a good profit on a project. Permaculture is all about sustainability, it means getting enough for ones needs and sharing the surplus. One of my main considerations is how long it is going to take for a project to become fully self-sustainable, because that does affect how much funding is needed. I'm a permaculture beginner, not familiar at all with all the ins and outs of doing a project. So, anyone with some experience with permaculture, can you please shed some lights on the pros and cons of developing a site in a tropical as compared to a temperate region, especially in terms of cost and investment?

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Assuming equal or more rainfall in the tropics, I'm guessing it would probably be easier, however, just because you don't have to deal with cold issues, doesn't mean all is dandy. Heat can be a real issue too.

I have the book Permacutlure, A Designers Manuel, by Bill Mollison, which deals with both tropic and temperate, but as it is inches thick, I still haven't gotton to the tropics section. I'd visit the area if you can during different seasons and talk to gardners / farmers there to see what issues they might have to deal with . . .

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hi Ryan, thanks for the reply. The land is in Qingdao, Shandong province (that's where I live). Here we can hardly grow anything without greenhouses during some cold months. In China, the south generally does have a lot more rainfall than the north. My other concern is generating enough electricity for heating on the site in cold winter, and building the necessary facilities for this. What has your experience with this in temperate regions? Do you think that could constitute the main part of investment on a smaller site in cold regions?

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I will be watching your site,. I am in South Africa and interested in Permaculture
Jeanette

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thanks, you can hold me accountable to this ;-)

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