for me, i live in burlington vt and we have so many amazing restaurants with local ingredients and such good food, and 95% of it is cooked:( it's so hard to walk down the road and not want to eat that food cause it's gonna make me feel crappy. i'm focusing on what i can eat, not what i can't, but i like eating out and trying other people's food. so that's one of my struggles.
Me too. I have a LOT of friends who make GREAT food (luckily, since I don't eat meat, I have a limited temptation anyway), and it's strange not to eat it. I live with my husband and our best friends (who are a couple, too) and they make local, organic, mostly vegan and wheat-free cooked food and so occasionally I eat their stuff, because it's made with such love. But I have to watch myself. I tend to be an "all or nothing" type of person (I think they are called "addicts" lol) so maybe my eat a little of this or that is not sustainable.
I'm backing off of myself and not trying to make myself feel bad when I eat tempting food. I think getting a stronger community, more Seattle-based raw friends, and more time to make food will help me so I will be patient as that happens.
it seems so much of our culture revolves around food - i know my family traditions do! cooking and eating together really brings us together and i have to be careful when i reject the food-love. i'm still struggling thinking about what to do this christmas! at least as a vegan there were some dishes and adaptations so i would basically be eating the traditional dinner.
i also find myself missing sharing food with my friends. i think i might have to bake up some loaves of bread to pass out just for the fun of a nice vigourous kneading session!
my biggest struggle is participating in activities with friends and family that always seem to revolve around food and drink! office donut day, friday after work drinks, sunday dimsum, christmas eve indian feast, christmas morning stollen etc.
TOTALLY. I'm going to bake a pumpkin loaf for the office as a peace truce...I feel distant when I shun the cooked food. Also, when I bake, I like to use the healthiest ingredients (organic, local, etc) so that at least the cooked food they are eating isn't store-bought.
I tend to be a pain when we go out to eat because many restaurants do a lame salad (or ones laden with meat!) and I HATE spending $10 on a plain green salad. But the raw options are increasing and I'm devising a way to bring my raw accouterments with me. Or I just eat ahead of time and enjoy the company...but still, it's awkward.
I "splurge" on tonic water and lime when I go out, or sugary cranberry juice if I am feeling REALLY compromising. I also just don't go out as much...we ask people to come over, we have more dinner parties, and we're turning our outbuilding into a place that we can go dancing so we don't have to go to clubs. In any case, it is hard, but I agree, this site and the awesome raw foodies on it makes it all better!
Permalink Reply by Joy on February 28, 2008 at 11:04pm
Do you belong to a raw food group? I know there is one in your area. Ann Wigmore who started wheatgrass, also opened a Raw food institute in your area that you are living in now. I know it is difficult, when I was young and gave up drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc, Most of my friends just stopped being my friend. I am very thankful for the internet and the way raw food people, groups, and places are growing. Growing, that is an appropriate term (or sprouting.) ;p
I agree with everyone. It's the social aspect of eating raw that's SO hard. I associate so many memories with food - all of it cooked of course! I also LOVE to try new foods from different cultures because I can't imagine going through life without having tried it. I'm very drawn to temptation also so it's extremely hard for me sometimes, and it's the reason I went back to SAD after being raw for a while. But I know deep inside that it's the best way to eat because I never felt better than when I was cleansed and raw. Anyhow! It's the importance that my OWN brain gives to the traditions of cooked food that is the hardest thing for me!
It is so hard to be social as a raw foodist. When I go out to eat with family or friends they think I am starving myself by just having a salad. Another problem is whole time we I am out eating with friends or family we are talking about raw food, which I am trying to get away from. I don't want to over talk about raw or push it off on anyone so I like to stay away from the subject.
After going raw my husband and I realized how much we were connected to food and eating out. Before raw we went out no less then 4 times a week. We associated everything with food from having fun to birthdays, holidays and so fourth. Now we are trying to find ways to not think about eating out.
I bet living in the Raw Vegan Village (Jinjee and Storm are putting together) would be great and so much easier for raw foodist. It is not easy being raw in this cooked world. It is even harder when you lived majority of your life eating cooked foods. 26 Years of cooked for me and probably 15 years of eating out at restaurants.
Yes, I would say that socializing is the WORST problem, especially since I tend to be shy and have made a point of being more social this year. That means trying harder to accept invitations. But when I'm invited to restaurants and parties (got one tomorrow!) I have to plan ahead so I don't get hungry while I'm there. Parties are easier. As for restaurants, what do juicers do? I don't want to turn down a restaurant invitation because I'm drinking green juices, but I have no choice unless I want to sit there and drink lemon water. No one seems to want to eat at the local raw cafe! :-)
Great comments. There are about 6 or 7 points that have hit the nail on the head for me.
Just a quick background: I eat meat (cooked). Sorry vegans, I just like to hedge my bets. But sometimes I have to remind myself to eat meat as I don't really crave it.
My main problem is SAD non-foods like bread. BREAD is such a bugger for me.
I can be fully raw (except for some cooked fish or beans/legumes) for about 3 months or so and feel awesome. My blood sugars even out, I maintain and lose weight. I feel on top of the world. BUT, then a friend asks me to have a meal with them and sometimes I feel so pumped up and healthy that I think I can handle an Indian curry with bread and rice for example. And I can. One meal is not going to throw me into terrible health. Im not that extreme, but once I've got that TASTE, I might only last one or two days before I binge on bread or some kind of refined commercialised carb. Then I feel like the hungriest Ive felt in months and the SAD cycle starts. I then put weight back on, get itchy, feel slow, and after 2 weeks almost find it an impossible notion to make a green smoothie. I feel like I can't trust raw food to get me through a day of work. I worry I'll get giddy or weak, and so I eat crap all day. To get out of this cycle I get back on youtube and listen to raw food people like david wolfe, and then Im back again. I make a smoothie the next day, get disciplined for a day and a half and by the end of that 2nd day I feel RAW INVINCIBLE again.
So for me it is obviously psychological. I can sometimes eat SAD food and not wreck my RAW MOMENTUM or RAWMENTUM, but these are usually big events of social importance like a wedding or someone elses families dinner or something where I feel it is genuinly worth the sacrifice and my head is SO in the social moment that it doesn't even feel like i ate SAD food. But it is when I have an unecessary SAD meal with a friend that I really feel like Ive let myself down and the 1 or 2 week SAD binge starts.
So for me its about the occasion and whether it messes with my momentum. I will never live in a raw village (or though its an awesome idea. Great job), and I know SAD food/culture will always be around me. (I have no problem with that). But I just need to learn and am very quickly learning what I can and cant handle from the SAD world.
The SAD world is the norm, at least in the US, I think it helps too, to think in terms of how SAD? Do you eat white bread with hydrogenated fats, and high fructose corn syrup or do you get the kind from Whole Foods without the added junk. Do you eat Alvarado Bread or something like it, that is whole grain, sprouted, and then cooked. I try to think in degrees, I know most of the SAD world does not even do that, but you don't sound too SAD. I try to do that for meat, also and try to avoid beef due to the fact that cows eat too much food that could be used to feed the whole world several times over, plus cows are fed legumes and foods that they normally would not eat nearly as much as they do, to be fattened and it causes them to have gas, and supposedly they pollute the world with their indigestion realeasing gas, causing more pollution then all the cars. And that is not even getting into the growth hormones, lack of full body development like limbs, etc. of animals.
ooommmggg...this was so my life for such a long time! first of all, going on the MASTER CLEANSE really helped me. I believe that it was able to rid my body of cravings in a way that raw food hadn't on it's own. secondly, I have a philosophy that's helped me a lot with binging. I look at a food and think "how is this serving my body?" i use to be very all or nothing. i'd eat total crap (hellooo processed carbohydrates) for days and yo yo back and forth to raw. now, though i'm not 100% raw, when i do eat cooked food, it's mostly simple, nutritious food with few, quality ingredients. anyways, i just had to respond because i can relate so much to your post. i don't want to make any assumptions about your binging habits or anything but i invite you to check out my blog as well as the raw body image and binge-eating disorder groups, both of which can be found on my page.
I'm in this world all by myself and running out of oxygen! Being raw in New Orleans was hard, but now It's hard to have a boyfriend, friends and I can't do anything with anyone cause I will feel pressured and I'm not for it...so I just been staying to myself until I meet someone on the same path...and that will never happen living here
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