Why So Much Negativity in the Raw Community?

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Permalink Reply by Paul Horne on May 22, 2009 at 11:44pm

Hi Shauna:

I haven't found much negativity in the raw community - I've actually found it to be a comparatively enlightened and compassionate community. But I do have some constructive feedback for you. I am on this forum now specifically because I'm in the market for a dehydrator and I AM doing my research about the Prop 8/Excalibur "rumor." Given how many raw food experts promote Excalibur, I'm not surprised that much of the community would feel shocked and betrayed if the company or its owners supported Prop 8.

It was actually the Sacramento Bee that reported Roger Orton's donation of $50,000 to Prop 8. Roger Orton is listed as owner or President of Excalibur all over the web, and on the Excalibur website he is referred to as the Founder (http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/enzymes_and_thermostat_control.htm).

If you are now the owner of Excalibur, perhaps you should take this opportunity to clarify Orton's involvement with the company from the beginning to the present. I agree that people should stick with the facts and not spread rumors, and if this is an opportunity for you to communicate something important about your company, I would see it as a positive rather than a negative.

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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on May 23, 2009 at 3:39pm

wow this is so crazy! what does someone like this have to gain from giving 50k to a cause that helps NOONE??! This union of souls should be a choice by the parties involved and should be a private matter\right. It also reflects equality in that if two people of any sort want to get together and team up that should be encouraged. People are usually a lot healthier if they are married. There are a lot of reasons but in fact I don't think people should have to be gay to be married either. What if two people just want to marry each other just because they love each other that much?

It is really a great thing to create associations of people who believe in the same things and want to support each other "until death do us part" for whatever reason. If a couple of people want to make a serious commitment to each other it is better for everyone. It can also benefit all of the foster kids out there who really need two people who are committed and who need\want to have a family to bring them up.

But yeah I would think twice about a company that gives their money to a cause that just seems so superficial and pointless.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Horne on May 23, 2009 at 7:51pm

Well said, RawTastic. I don't get it either. But obviously there are many people who are against gay marriage, and that's their right. It is also our right as consumers to choose where we spend our money, and that's why most of us choose local, choose organic, choose fair trade, and choose compassionate companies who in turn honor everyone's civil rights. I hope Shauna and Excalibur do the right thing and explain the truth behind the rumors here and on their website. I fear there is a reason why this issue hasn't been quickly and simply "resolved" with a press release.

Peace.

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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on May 23, 2009 at 4:02pm

Hajapapaya loves the variety and is hindu, lots of gods, lots of dehydrators, gods fight and are tricky amongst each other - and so do dehydrators - thats life.
Still every god got its followers and so do dehydrators...
did I get it right?

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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on May 23, 2009 at 4:16pm

Yes before they fight each other they say: "we are the "ex-KALI-bur", you will be absorbated" or stuff like this. But still both of them have their fans and exist. Dont know how they make it.

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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on May 23, 2009 at 4:17pm

If you keep on replying like this I will never learn this heart-physiology.....

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Permalink Reply by Rob Hoover on May 23, 2009 at 9:01pm

The answer is simple: A small percentage of people are evil and destructive and as something grows and expands their numbers increase within that activitey and they begin to do destructive things on a larger scale. Witness the internet a simple way of communicating faster as originally intended and as time has passed this same "type" of personality begins to use it to do destructive things like create and spread computor viruses -- an act that no sane person would ever consider doing.
As in the case of all past societies we then begin to see the formation of policies and laws to prevent this which then of course restricts and ruins the freedoms of the majority of us.
The good guys then have to do battle to protect their freedoms.
And so it goes...

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Permalink Reply by Baby =] on May 24, 2009 at 12:16pm

Gosh. What I'd like to know, is why do people direct so much negative energy towards the raw food community? Like most of us don't give a toss how SAD eaters want to roll yet they quite a few like to get up in our faces-.-. I mean yeah i get it, oooh so scary someone coming along and shaking your belief systems, but honestly it's ONLY food!

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MEH/

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