Why So Much Negativity in the Raw Community?
Lately I have seen an increase in negativity and hostility in the raw food community and I’m concerned. I have always told my non-raw friend how much I enjoyed working with the people in the raw community because of all the positive and accepting people. Through my experience I have meet and became friends with some wonderful people.However, lately it seems like everyday I am hearing or seeing things that are completely untrue and negative being posted or e-mailed to our office about Excalibur coming from raw foodies. At first I just attributed it to people who have a motive to sell their product by trying to tarnish Excalibur’s good name. It’s sad that they feel the only way to sell a competing product is to spread miss information, but something has just gone too far. Yesterday I was informed about a post on this site which stated that the owner of Excalibur Roger Orton gave 50,000 to prop 8- the marriage is between a man and a woman-- ban on gay marriage issue for those of you who don’t know what Prop 8 is about-- this was completely un true as I am the owner of Excalibur- What is concerning is how fast people just believe what they hear, without checking the facts. There was no reason for the post as this issue has nothing to do with dehydration it was just an attempt to be negative and spread false information? What is the motivation? People posted they wished they never bought an Excalibur and we have received hate e-mail all by people saying all sorts of nasty and hateful stuff , these people 1) don’t know the facts and don’t care to ask 2) want tolerance but are not tolerant themselves. Excalibur has done more for dehydration in the raw food community than any other company; we support many teachers and donate a large portion of our profits to our global humanitarian efforts. We do not discriminate against ANY lifestyle and approach business as a vehicle to help others... So I am perplexed?
It is not just negativity towards Excalibur; I am also seeing this towards other really good people in the raw community and over other issues as well. -What is going on?? Is it the economy that has everyone in an uproar so they are looking for someone or something to take their hostilities out on? When times are tough we need to support each other, not tear each other apart and feed into negativity. Anyone have some insight for me?
It is not just negativity towards Excalibur; I am also seeing this towards other really good people in the raw community and over other issues as well. -What is going on?? Is it the economy that has everyone in an uproar so they are looking for someone or something to take their hostilities out on? When times are tough we need to support each other, not tear each other apart and feed into negativity. Anyone have some insight for me?
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Permalink Reply by Paul Horne on
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Hi Shauna:
I haven't found much negativity in the raw community - I've actually found it to be a comparatively enlightened and compassionate community. But I do have some constructive feedback for you. I am on this forum now specifically because I'm in the market for a dehydrator and I AM doing my research about the Prop 8/Excalibur "rumor." Given how many raw food experts promote Excalibur, I'm not surprised that much of the community would feel shocked and betrayed if the company or its owners supported Prop 8.
It was actually the Sacramento Bee that reported Roger Orton's donation of $50,000 to Prop 8. Roger Orton is listed as owner or President of Excalibur all over the web, and on the Excalibur website he is referred to as the Founder (http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/enzymes_and_thermostat_control.htm).
If you are now the owner of Excalibur, perhaps you should take this opportunity to clarify Orton's involvement with the company from the beginning to the present. I agree that people should stick with the facts and not spread rumors, and if this is an opportunity for you to communicate something important about your company, I would see it as a positive rather than a negative.
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on -
wow this is so crazy! what does someone like this have to gain from giving 50k to a cause that helps NOONE??! This union of souls should be a choice by the parties involved and should be a private matter\right. It also reflects equality in that if two people of any sort want to get together and team up that should be encouraged. People are usually a lot healthier if they are married. There are a lot of reasons but in fact I don't think people should have to be gay to be married either. What if two people just want to marry each other just because they love each other that much?
It is really a great thing to create associations of people who believe in the same things and want to support each other "until death do us part" for whatever reason. If a couple of people want to make a serious commitment to each other it is better for everyone. It can also benefit all of the foster kids out there who really need two people who are committed and who need\want to have a family to bring them up.
But yeah I would think twice about a company that gives their money to a cause that just seems so superficial and pointless.
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Well said, RawTastic. I don't get it either. But obviously there are many people who are against gay marriage, and that's their right. It is also our right as consumers to choose where we spend our money, and that's why most of us choose local, choose organic, choose fair trade, and choose compassionate companies who in turn honor everyone's civil rights. I hope Shauna and Excalibur do the right thing and explain the truth behind the rumors here and on their website. I fear there is a reason why this issue hasn't been quickly and simply "resolved" with a press release.
Peace.
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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on -
Hajapapaya loves the variety and is hindu, lots of gods, lots of dehydrators, gods fight and are tricky amongst each other - and so do dehydrators - thats life.
Still every god got its followers and so do dehydrators...
did I get it right?
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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on
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Yes before they fight each other they say: "we are the "ex-KALI-bur", you will be absorbated" or stuff like this. But still both of them have their fans and exist. Dont know how they make it.
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Permalink Reply by hajapapaya on
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If you keep on replying like this I will never learn this heart-physiology.....
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Permalink Reply by Rob Hoover on -
The answer is simple: A small percentage of people are evil and destructive and as something grows and expands their numbers increase within that activitey and they begin to do destructive things on a larger scale. Witness the internet a simple way of communicating faster as originally intended and as time has passed this same "type" of personality begins to use it to do destructive things like create and spread computor viruses -- an act that no sane person would ever consider doing.
As in the case of all past societies we then begin to see the formation of policies and laws to prevent this which then of course restricts and ruins the freedoms of the majority of us.
The good guys then have to do battle to protect their freedoms.
And so it goes...
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Permalink Reply by Baby =] on -
Gosh. What I'd like to know, is why do people direct so much negative energy towards the raw food community? Like most of us don't give a toss how SAD eaters want to roll yet they quite a few like to get up in our faces-.-. I mean yeah i get it, oooh so scary someone coming along and shaking your belief systems, but honestly it's ONLY food!
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