Why I feel the Law Of Attraction is a load of B.S. -- my response
There is no arguing with the with the psychology of The Law Of Attraction. In fact, that's exactly what it is: psychology, specifically Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Don't know what that is? Here's how one website describes it:
Cognitive-behavioral therapy is based on the idea that our thoughts cause our feelings and behaviors, not external things, like people, situations, and events. The benefit of this fact is that we can change the way we think to feel / act better even if the situation does not change.
source: http://www.nacbt.org/whatiscbt.htm
Sounds an awful lot like the law of attraction, doesn't it? Obviously, there is nothing wrong with this notion. It's like when you're trying to do something and your inner fears hold you back, that voice in your head telling you that it can't be done... but you ignore it and persevere. You think positively and you accomplish your goal. That's awesome.
But there are other aspects to the law of attraction, the idea that we're responsible for all of the bad things in our lives. A friend of a friend of mine was once gang-raped by five guys. She's now living with herpes. According to this ridiculous notion of the law of attraction, she was responsible for attracting that. In fact, that would be true of everything that's ever happened in history, whether it was massive tsunami a few years ago, the Holocaust, the Slave Trade, the Holodomor, Hiroshima, Dresden, children getting raped, honor killings, the fact that 46,000 people starve to death every day... you could go on and on down the line.
Here are extremely bloody, gruesome, and horrifically graphic pictures of victims of America's war in Iraq. http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX Those who believe in the law of attraction would no doubt say they attracted these atrocities unto themselves, and yet I don't expect anyone who believes in the law of attraction to actually click on that link, because one can only be concerned only with positive feelings and happy vibrations, and seeing reminders of what is actually going on in this world would no doubt bring them down. What a bummer.
I know what the argument is: that our thoughts are energy. EVERYTHING is energy. That's all well and good, but what exactly does that mean? This is where quantum physics comes into play, since the entire universe and everything in it is made up of sub-atomic particles. Here's the problem: if you're going to use science to justify your claims, you have to be prepared to use all of science and not just cherry-pick things to fit into your argument. I tried to look up if there was any proof that our thoughts could do anything outside of our brains and found about the inverse square law. This states that "the intensity of an energy wave radiating from a source is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from that source." In other words, if there were two people standing near me and one was twice as far from me as the other person, the person who is farthest would only feel 1/4th of the energy that I'm transmitting, which isn't very much to begin with as this energy is affected by all magnetic fields, including the Earth's, which overpowers it by ten orders of magnitude.
This is why I don't believe in the law of attraction. This is why I feel it does a disservice to have the "raw food movement" associated with this New Age nonsense. There's simply no scientific validity to it and it blames the victim for their problems. What we think has a lot to do with how our life turns out, but sometimes "shit happens." That's just a sad fact of life.
Cognitive-behavioral therapy is based on the idea that our thoughts cause our feelings and behaviors, not external things, like people, situations, and events. The benefit of this fact is that we can change the way we think to feel / act better even if the situation does not change.
source: http://www.nacbt.org/whatiscbt.htm
Sounds an awful lot like the law of attraction, doesn't it? Obviously, there is nothing wrong with this notion. It's like when you're trying to do something and your inner fears hold you back, that voice in your head telling you that it can't be done... but you ignore it and persevere. You think positively and you accomplish your goal. That's awesome.
But there are other aspects to the law of attraction, the idea that we're responsible for all of the bad things in our lives. A friend of a friend of mine was once gang-raped by five guys. She's now living with herpes. According to this ridiculous notion of the law of attraction, she was responsible for attracting that. In fact, that would be true of everything that's ever happened in history, whether it was massive tsunami a few years ago, the Holocaust, the Slave Trade, the Holodomor, Hiroshima, Dresden, children getting raped, honor killings, the fact that 46,000 people starve to death every day... you could go on and on down the line.
Here are extremely bloody, gruesome, and horrifically graphic pictures of victims of America's war in Iraq. http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX Those who believe in the law of attraction would no doubt say they attracted these atrocities unto themselves, and yet I don't expect anyone who believes in the law of attraction to actually click on that link, because one can only be concerned only with positive feelings and happy vibrations, and seeing reminders of what is actually going on in this world would no doubt bring them down. What a bummer.
I know what the argument is: that our thoughts are energy. EVERYTHING is energy. That's all well and good, but what exactly does that mean? This is where quantum physics comes into play, since the entire universe and everything in it is made up of sub-atomic particles. Here's the problem: if you're going to use science to justify your claims, you have to be prepared to use all of science and not just cherry-pick things to fit into your argument. I tried to look up if there was any proof that our thoughts could do anything outside of our brains and found about the inverse square law. This states that "the intensity of an energy wave radiating from a source is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from that source." In other words, if there were two people standing near me and one was twice as far from me as the other person, the person who is farthest would only feel 1/4th of the energy that I'm transmitting, which isn't very much to begin with as this energy is affected by all magnetic fields, including the Earth's, which overpowers it by ten orders of magnitude.
This is why I don't believe in the law of attraction. This is why I feel it does a disservice to have the "raw food movement" associated with this New Age nonsense. There's simply no scientific validity to it and it blames the victim for their problems. What we think has a lot to do with how our life turns out, but sometimes "shit happens." That's just a sad fact of life.
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on -
I would rather believe in the law of action. As in making something happen. I also believe in hugs for people who have been through difficult situations. Forcing yourself to be positive is not possible for a lot of people.This is why we need healers of all kinds including those of the 'attraction" type. But this won't work for everyone.
Compassion is the number one thing that needs to underly any healing process. After being brutally damaged, what a person needs is to know that someone cares. This is where the law of attraction fails for some. It appears as if the practitioner is saying- just forget about that terrible thing, don't "deal" with it- it was meant to happen. Some people can accept the martyr role or the amnesiast role and then continue on with their life by applying a smothering, thick layer of makeup over a rotting piece of meat.
I like the idea of forgetting- but is that really possible? Some people need real help coping and moving on. So I would really like to appreciate everyone in the healing field because the world needs a lot of help and different techniques work for different people.
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Permalink Reply by rawboomer on -
i believe in the law of choice. we can chose to put good things in our lives, like raw food. this choice can lead to good health, finding great friends (losing some), and a whole lot of other great things start happen in our life. we can make a bad choice, like smoking. maybe 40 or 50 years down the road, something like cancer happens. thus, the law of attraction to me, is making choices of what i want to happen in my life. i, can be making the best of choices for me, and one day a truck hits me while i'm riding my bicycle(POOF!), sometimes bad things happen, that are not our choice. but i have also observed people in my life, whose choices ~they~ made, shortened their own lives. i'm still going to ride my bicycle.
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Permalink Reply by Vampirella on -
It exists whether you believe it or not. It's a law of the universe. Even molecules and atoms have will.
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Permalink Reply by Vampirella on
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I wanted to go to see the pyramids and I now am going October.
I feel friendship towards some girls and therefore I now have friends.
I used to imagine my ex cheating on me all the time, and I lost him from jealousy.
It's personal Charles. Same with Love, Hate, Fear..those things we all feel is real.
Tomorrow, The future, the past, September...all concepts.
You do not have to believe in them. Just be yourself and do what you like and believe what you want.
There might be a bigger issue here like maybe you are annoyed with people talking about it. But you are creating more of what bothers you. JSYK
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on
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gOOD ONE THUNDERA!
I cant wait to hear how your psychic study materializes!
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Permalink Reply by Charles on -
So if I said the Easter Bunny exists, and you said why, and I said it exists whether you believe it or not... that's a "good" answer? Huh?
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on
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In suvines world all kinds of attractions exist- particularily spontaneous orthoerections.. whether she "believes" it or not.
In my world attraction isn't the dominant force whether I believe it or not..
There are different forces that dominate different realities.. from my perspective..
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on
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That is a good point gil- yeah people keep talking about these things as "laws" when they are mental constructs, observations, and phenomena that pan out sometimes because you are controling one of the affecting aspects to a future reality.
In Charles' reality he seems pretty private so he is very unlikely to get what he wants because no one knows what that is except for ending world hunger and halting environmental catastrophe.
Which in either case he could work for companies, non-profits, orthe gov;t agencies that attempt to deal with that.
Or maybe he doesn't really have any wants to attract because his life is so great so this doesn't apply to him. But it is an interesting topic and it works for some of the people who apply the techniques and helps people identify what they want and focus on them and take steps to get there. That is hugely important in itsself.
What Suvine says is right about love. It is kind of a magical and mystical thing if you find it. And is
based on some kind of physiologcal and biochemical recipe that we don't have much control over..
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Permalink Reply by Charles on
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Not sure what you mean about me being pretty private. I'm quite active on this forum, Twitter, and Facebook, plus my story has been featured twice on We Like It Raw. What more do you want? My social security number?
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Permalink Reply by Vampirella on
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Awesome Universe said you have no desires because your life is so great.
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