Vitamin injections

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Permalink Reply by Kasey on May 12, 2009 at 9:26pm

What are you eating?

I tested low in many vitamins and minerals including b12 when I first went raw. It's always been an issue of absorption with me. I supplemented with b12 for a bit, and still tested low. I started eating 811 style and just got tested last week and I'm high in everything now! Even my zinc was perfect which I was worried about because I usually only get about 50% the rda.

It seems that once you clean out your digestive tract, you start to absorb more nutrients. Almost too obvious to say lol. I still have my b12 supplement and I'll chew a tablet maybe once a week just to be safe, but I honestly don't think I even need it anymore. My b12 score was very high and I might even be overdoing it by taking this supplement so I use it very sparingly.

If your teeth are fallin apart, your quite likely too acidic and your body is using the calcium in your teeth to buffer your blood ph. A diet high in fruits and veggies will solve that problem.

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Permalink Reply by Kasey on May 13, 2009 at 8:17am

never thought about that! so many things are improving with those little devils out of my body ; )

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Permalink Reply by Blueberry on May 13, 2009 at 1:55am

How is B 12 like methylcobalamin and hydoroxycobalamin made? blood tests aren't always reliable, the MMA urine test is more reliable. If you don't have any symptoms you may not be B 12 deficient.

Doctors tend to use cyanocobalamin which is toxic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1-OeIzkPxc

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Permalink Reply by Lucy Black on May 13, 2009 at 4:42am

Hi all,

Thanks for all your input, as ever your contribution is appreciated.

Does anyone know anything about injections other than B12?

Many thanks,

Lucy xx

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Permalink Reply by Abhi - ThisVeryMoment on May 13, 2009 at 6:46am

Dont do injections & medicines.

If you look anorexic or people think you are then do check if you are a Vata body constituency (Ayurveda).

People with Vata have weak digestive fire and find it hard to absorb raw food. Hence cooked foods are recommended until they can increase digestive fire based on Yoga, Pranayama and/or certain spices.

Forget about B12. I dont think it exists as an isolated critical element. Most Indians who are vegetarians have never had meat... probably go through life and live 100 without any B12.

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Permalink Reply by Lucy Black on May 13, 2009 at 7:48am

Hi Abhi,

Yes I'm vata type. And because of that, I do eat some cooked food (but very clean cooked - still no wheat or sugar etc, mostly just veggies in soups and gently cooked stews). My body wasn't really coping well with being 100% raw and my kinesiologist recommended eating about 30% cooked 70% raw.

Very interesting thank you - where can I read more about what I can do to increase the digestive fire?

Lucy xx

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Permalink Reply by Abhi - ThisVeryMoment on May 13, 2009 at 6:44pm

I was able to download an Ayurveda PDF online. There were some links I had posted to Google Books pages on another discussion that pointed out Raw & Cooked issues.

Digestive fire - Talk to a real practitioner preferably. Also you can read which spices help Vata types.

Cumin seed lightly stirred in ghee or oil is for sure a great digestive (Its the first thing added to almost EVERY Indian dish). There's bunch more for my Pitta the Vata stuff I cant remember..

Seriously, meet a practitioner who can determine your Dominant & Secondary types. Also, tell you what elements are imbalanced and what foods will help.

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Permalink Reply by Paddy on May 13, 2009 at 8:12am

Hi Lucy I listened to this audio a few weeks back which touches on B12 injections and the difference between testing the actual cell for nutrient deficiencies and the standard tests given at the doctors for B12 and other nutrients.

http://radicalhealth.com/av/2009/03/2009-03-03-answer-anemia-b12.mp3

Also check out the step by step guide here which further explores compatible B12 and excipients like magnesium stearate and ascorbic acid which can block nutrient absorbption. It is steps 2 and 3.

http://radicalhealth.com/guide/

This is where the info on excipients comes from

http://www.qnlabs.com/research-library/toxic-ingredients/

Email me if you have any questions.

Paddy

p.s im in the library right now Lucy and going home in a sec so it may be 2morro or next day before I can reply. My computer is broke.

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Permalink Reply by Lucy Black on May 13, 2009 at 6:33pm

Crikey Paddy, how is it that you know everything about everything! Thanks for this, I'll have a stop, look and listen.

To others who are curious about what I eat, thank you so much for your interest and I appreciate your advice. I am vegan, wheat free and sugar free and mostly eat what my body tells me to. About 70% raw as my body seems to like some cooked as previously mentioned. A typical day would be:

Breakfast: Smoothie - mango, pineapple, spinach, goji berries, ground flax seeds, henp protein powder, Udo's oil or hemp oil
Lunch: Soup (cooked) - tomatoes and veggies normally, maybe some beans in it like canellini
Mid afternoon: Nut milk - sesame seeds, hulled hemp seeds, maybe some almonds or other nuts, a few apricot kernels, cacao, dates, banana
Dinner might be another soup or some sort of high veg dish like veggie chilli. Or maybe a raw soup or raw curry, or maybe just another green smoothie with different fruit and greens such as lettuce or celery

Snacks would be a raw bar like a Lara bar.

It does vary, but that's typical.

What do you think food experts?

Lucy xx

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Permalink Reply by syd on May 13, 2009 at 7:02pm

eat ants.

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Permalink Reply by WayneMartin on May 13, 2009 at 7:21pm

One thing that Brian Clement talked about is that B12 injections only increase the b12 in the fluid where the actual blood cells stay deficient. Therefore the lift from b12 injections are only temporary and not really addressing the real problem. In some of the videos below he talks about the reason more than half of the population is B12 deficient.

I think any deficiency would have an effect on how all other vitamins and minerals would be absorbed as I think everything is inter linked.



I think "This Video" almost directly addresses your situation.

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Permalink Reply by Lucy Black on May 16, 2009 at 10:51am

Hi all,

I know some peeps are following this, so just an update on my next steps.

I'm going to get some of the LifeGive B12 supplements that Brian Clements has made. Listening to the various audios from Clements and David Favour (thanks guys, very helpful indeed) that would seem to be an essential and sensible thing to do. Having listened to them, and read some of the replies here, I'm regretting having started the injections, but hopefully once I get cracking with this alternative stuff I won't need any more injections. They will test my B12 levels before they inject me again after this initial course, so hopefully in future the tests will show my levels are good.

I'm also going to track down an Ayurvedic practitioner, and also check out some more of the David Favour information as he seems like a bit of a genius.

Conventionally, my doctor has now also referred me to a gastroenterologist and a haematologist. It won't hurt to hear what they have to say, and hopefully if they do any diagnostic tests I can get the results then look into an alternative solution, rather than having any more crazy stuff injected into me. Also have been referred to a dietician - she's sent me through a diet information sheet about B12 deficiencies, which recommends I have sheeps' tongue sandwiches for lunch! Ick ick! Not going to happen! I have other nicer things to be eating thanks very much!

Thanks again people, your advice has been really useful and I appreciate it so much that you took the time and consideration to help.

Lucy xx

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