To vaccine or not to vaccine?

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Permalink Reply by Audrey on May 3, 2009 at 5:03pm

I say no to vaccines for myself and my daughter. I think they are poison. Personally, I wouldn't even consider the Gardasil or hepatitis. I can understand how people debate about some of the ones for life threatening diseases, but I don't think they work anyways.

But do a lot of research and decide for yourself.

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Permalink Reply by Blueberry on May 4, 2009 at 2:20am

I saw this article on 1300 girls being left paralysed or harmed after cervical vaccine. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1160516/Paralysis-epileps...

My son went into coma after MMR and my 2 nephews had adverse reactions to vaccines

Why some people are having severe adverse reactions should be being investigated, and the fact it isn't shows they do not have people's best interests at heart at all

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Permalink Reply by Synergy Chef on July 21, 2009 at 3:54am

Hoo RAW!!!

Have you read any of Dr. Len Horowitz material? Here is a link to his site.
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness.html

Love

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Permalink Reply by Alexa on May 4, 2009 at 2:51am

I've had practitioners speak to me about it as well, and I've chosen against getting Gardasil (and any other voluntary vaccinations). I realize it can be a tough decision, because you may be getting pressure from many different sides to go ahead with one... but as Charles and Erin pointed out, the ingredients are just too repellent to me.

Ultimately, I think you should do what will make you the most comfortable, whether it's getting the vaccine or not.

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Permalink Reply by Barron on May 4, 2009 at 4:12am

Hi Elizabeth.

If you read even half of these links you will no doubt choose NOT to get this nasty and very toxic vaccine!

HPV Vaccine (Gardasil) - Males to be targetd next.

But males don’t get cervical cancer right??!!

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-12/123173...

Well, well, well, it was only a matter of time until the Pharmaceutical Co Merck started pressing for OK to market Gardasil for males!

Some very strong articles re Gardasil and the HPV Vaccine as promised:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=127553

http://www.rense.com/general78/pharma.htm

http://www.rense.com/general78/hpv.htm

http://www.rense.com/general76/hsiv.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/insane.htm

http://www.rense.com/general77/jadbs.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/daugh.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/SXSE.HTM

http://www.rense.com/general77/cerv.htm

http://www.prwatch.org/node/6263 with specific ref to New Zealand

Another Gardasil story re Paralysis being the result:
http://www.aolhealth.com/health/womens-health/news/article/_a/could...

And another damning story about Gardasil!
http://www.healthfreedom.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=...

And another!!!

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/janak/080723

And some more evidence just in case you weren’t convinced by now!!

http://www.naturalnews.com/023792.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/02/hpv-v...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm

http://www.naturalnews.com/024774.html

HPV Vaccine Contains Rat Poison Chemical!!!
http://www.naturalnews.com/024872.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article53378...

http://www.medications.com/se/gardasil

Well, if anyone bothers to look at all the links above and if you have a daughter and are considering getting her to have the HPV Vaccine then I urge you to read all of the above information before making your decision!

Thank you.

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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Marie on May 4, 2009 at 1:04pm

Wow thanks for all the links everyone! This is all very helpful stuff!

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Permalink Reply by Blueberry on May 4, 2009 at 2:40pm

Hi Elizabeth you could also try homeopathic alternatives to vaccines

http://www.hpathy.com/health/gardner-flu-shots.asp

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Permalink Reply by Erica on May 4, 2009 at 5:25pm

Don't do it!

I had tons of vaccines before going to India about 3 years ago and I'm doing a detox with a homeopath now. I will never get another one. I am almost sure its affected my mind and body to a major degree...

I'm not a doctor (yet...maybe), but I believe that many natural remedies such as homeopathy or essential oils are very powerful medicines, and they can easily replace any vaccine if used intelligently.

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Permalink Reply by Tony on July 1, 2009 at 3:55pm

What about the shot for tetnus? Would it be worth it to get if you got cut by a rusty nail? I know all other vaccines are horrible and I wish I never got them when I was little, but I cant go back in time.

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Permalink Reply by Jef on July 1, 2009 at 4:09pm

Did you get cut by a rusty nail?
If I got cut by a rusty nail I would soak IMMEDIATELY in Epsome salt for like an hour. Then I'd go to my Homeopathic/naturopathic dr. and ask them.

My 4 year old DD who's had no vaccines got cut by a semi rusty garden tool. I freaked out. Everyone in my "real" life told me to get the shot for her. But it had Diptheria along with the Tetanus!!! HOw bogus is that?
So I went to a homeopathic/naturopathic/energy testing lady, who gave her some herbal blood cleansing stuff and nano silver. She has been fine. Its been a month or 2. But I also soaked it for an hour within 5 minutes of the cut.

I don't know what I'd do if one of my kids got a nail halfway through their foot, but I'll decide that if it happens.....errrrr.....knock on wood.

Also, I think the hepatitis and gardasil vaccines are completely bogus. I'm not gonna be out having sex with every Tom Dick and Harry, and I'm not gonna come into contact with all that crap. So why would I need a shot? Comepletely crazy if you ask me.

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Permalink Reply by aishwarya on July 1, 2009 at 4:27pm

i believe our immunities build up really high on raw food and so we need less of this junk. i am trying to get my dogs to be more on RAF too and eventually i think they would need less of the vaccines.

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Permalink Reply by yogini on July 1, 2009 at 5:43pm

Elizabeth,

Regarding the Gardasil vaccine: as I have no idea if you carry HVP strains it works against -- or will some day carry the HPV strains that cause cervical cancer, I certainly don't want to tell you what to do. I will recommend that you get as much information for and against it as you can, and decide for yourself. Personally, I am not getting the vaccine- only because it is a new vaccine, I am married and monogamous. I do receive vaccines that have been tried and true (tetanus, hepatitis- but I have to receive hep because of my job- not the flu no way no how)- that said, when/if I have children, I will personally wait until they have reached a state of developed immune maturity before I subject them to any vaccines. And then it will only be the "basic" vaccines, not some of the newer ones. Do you know about herd immunity? It's a concept worth understanding, basically- if everyone around you is vaccinated, you won't catch a disease, because it's not highly prevalent in a population. Worth considering.

Did you know that you can be tested for strains of HPV that the Gardasil vaccine works against? Ask your doctor about this. Did you know that cervical cancer and anal cancer are nasty, painful ways to pass from this life? I do NOT promote vaccines. I think that big pharma does a whole lot of bad. But I also want you to know, that as I don't know you, I think it's dangerous to give you advice about what to do regarding something so potentially dangerous. It's all a matter of odds.

I'm an astrologer. I can look at my stars and see if it's a good time to have a surgery, get a vaccine, etc. I'm also a doctor, and I understand the pros and cons of getting vaccines. I would never tell you "get it" or "don't get it" on a message board, because I have seen and know too much. But I will tell you that no one here means any harm. I just wonder how many of them have seen cervical cancer from the inside out. You could start eating french fries and Krispy Cremes tomorrow, turning tricks for a living, etc.. and I would say "get the vaccine". You could eat raw, have a lot of responsible sex and stay on various superfoods for life, and I would say, "why bother?". There are so many factors.....

Something I learned in medical school, which I find quite interesting, is that vaccination originally comes from native and tribal cultures.

Straight from good old Wikipedia:

Early forms of vaccination were developed in ancient China as early as 200 B.C.[1] Scholar Ole Lund comments: "The earliest documented examples of vaccination are from India and China in the 17th century, where vaccination with powdered scabs from people infected with smallpox was used to protect against the disease. Smallpox used to be a common disease throughout the world and 20% to 30% of infected persons died from the disease. Smallpox was responsible for 8 to 20% of all deaths in several European countries in the 18th century. The tradition of vaccination may have originated in India in AD 1000."[4] The mention of vaccination in the Sact'eya Grantham, an Ayurvedic text, was noted by the French scholar Henri Marie Husson in the journal Dictionaire des sciences me`dicales.[5] Almroth Wright, the professor of pathology at Netley, further helped shape the future of vaccination by conducting limited experiments on the professional staff at Netly, including himself. The outcome of these experiments resulted in further development of vaccination in Europe.[6] The Anatolian Ottoman Turks knew about methods of vaccination about a hundred years before Edward Jenner to whom the discovery is attributed. They called vaccination Ashi or engrafting, which they used to apply to their children with cowpox taken from the breast of cattle. This kind of vaccination and other forms of variolation were introduced into England by Lady Montagu, a famous English letter-writer and wife of the English ambassador at Istanbul between 1716 and 1718, who'd almost died from smallpox as a young adult and was physically scarred from it. She came across the Turkish methods of vaccination, consenting to have her son inoculated by the Embassy surgeon Charles Maitland in the Turkish way. Lady Montagu wrote to her sister and friends in England describing the process in details. On her return to England she continued to propagate the Turkish tradition of vaccination and had many of her relatives inoculated.

Hope this helps. I have to get offline and back on the beach! Good luck in your decisions.

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