Seemingly, possibly, maybe, it just might, there's and outside chance that this is contradictary to 811.
Something that has been bothering me about 811 is this.
811 says we should eat like our primate cousins eat because that’s the way our ancestors ate. Fair enough I can’t argue with that. But why does 811 only work if we exercise and why do 811’ers use physical stamina to try to prove a point that 811 is the only diet worth considering.
Chimps and gorillas don’t go cycling for 50 miles. OK, only joking about that, but they don’t go running for 20 miles to get in shape. Surely our ancestors, if they weren’t out hunting, and 811 says they weren’t, wouldn’t need physical stamina to go out collecting fruit and greens. They certainly wouldn’t be out marathon running just to keep fit and leave their family exposed to danger any longer than they needed to. They would need to be in reasonable shape to protect themselves and their families but if you were being attacked by a lion, for example, and you were on your own, you wouldn’t have to run 26 miles to get away from it! If you were with your family you wouldn’t run at all, you would have to stay and fight.
What advantage could there be in nature to be able to run 26 miles? I don’t think any animal would chase you anywhere near that distance. Another pre Olympic athlete perhaps? I doubt it.
I don’t think it was survival of the fittest, more like survival of the strongest and cleverest.
Doesn’t all that physical stress age us and shorten our lives? In a previous thread about the longest lived people in the world, I didn’t notice any ex -athletes in the list.
I am genuinely just curious and this is not a criticism of anyone or the 811 diet.
Just in case anyone didn't read that last line or misunderstood it.
I am genuinely just curious and this is not a criticism of anyone or the 811 diet.
811 says we should eat like our primate cousins eat because that’s the way our ancestors ate. Fair enough I can’t argue with that. But why does 811 only work if we exercise and why do 811’ers use physical stamina to try to prove a point that 811 is the only diet worth considering.
Chimps and gorillas don’t go cycling for 50 miles. OK, only joking about that, but they don’t go running for 20 miles to get in shape. Surely our ancestors, if they weren’t out hunting, and 811 says they weren’t, wouldn’t need physical stamina to go out collecting fruit and greens. They certainly wouldn’t be out marathon running just to keep fit and leave their family exposed to danger any longer than they needed to. They would need to be in reasonable shape to protect themselves and their families but if you were being attacked by a lion, for example, and you were on your own, you wouldn’t have to run 26 miles to get away from it! If you were with your family you wouldn’t run at all, you would have to stay and fight.
What advantage could there be in nature to be able to run 26 miles? I don’t think any animal would chase you anywhere near that distance. Another pre Olympic athlete perhaps? I doubt it.
I don’t think it was survival of the fittest, more like survival of the strongest and cleverest.
Doesn’t all that physical stress age us and shorten our lives? In a previous thread about the longest lived people in the world, I didn’t notice any ex -athletes in the list.
I am genuinely just curious and this is not a criticism of anyone or the 811 diet.
Just in case anyone didn't read that last line or misunderstood it.
I am genuinely just curious and this is not a criticism of anyone or the 811 diet.
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Permalink Reply by telefunken on -
oh....no.....
: )
*rolls up sleeves....checks watch......waits.....*
lol
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Permalink Reply by telefunken on
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yep...oxidation damage (ie: accelerated cell aging) is increased by sustained cardio load....right?
what is true fitness? is there a standard that fits everyone? maybe it's more about "whole-ness" not cardio supremacy.....
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Permalink Reply by Erin on -
Hey Chris- I've wondered about that, too. I've noticed that all my old customers who were long time runners and marathoners were prematurely aged looking. I wondered about the oxidative stress on their bodies.
I found this forum discussion and it had some interesting stuff in it:
http://ask.metafilter.com/37507/Extreme-athleticism-and-lifespan
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Permalink Reply by Chris Burt on -
Damn, I knew you would catch me out Pete. OK the games up. Everyone get on 811!
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Permalink Reply by Raw Artist, Alice Mason on -
I think cats are on the dreaded Atkins.
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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on -
Erin your cat is still cracking me up!
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Permalink Reply by Uti on -
Hey, I think that's Joey, the guy who passed Durianrider last week down under.
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Permalink Reply by Amanda White on -
This must have been an 811 race for the cure or something.
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