Rumors and lies

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Permalink Reply by kelmichele on January 27, 2009 at 3:31am

Wow! Thanks man, I was feeling it heavy today, made me think what's the point of it all, if everybody here seems so miserable and hell bent ego driven on making everybody else sad about their life choices too. haha lol.....oh the tangled webs we weave.

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Permalink Reply by telefunken on January 27, 2009 at 9:06am

I heard that the person who told him eats at Burger King daily for lunch (covertly of course....) I dunno....that's what I heard. I'm just sayin............

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Permalink Reply by Sunshine on January 27, 2009 at 8:02am

All of the above is why I'm not here as much as I was at the beginning.

That being said, I learned something early on in my raw journey. Just because someone is raw, doesn't mean they're automatically nice. Yes, I learned it the hard way, but it was definitely a valuable lesson. :)

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Permalink Reply by Ian on January 27, 2009 at 9:02am

Just because someone is raw, doesn't mean they're automatically nice.

Very important lesson to learn, indeed. My roommate is the nicest person I know, yet has one of the worst diets I've ever witnessed. But I wouldn't trade her as a roommate for anyone else in the world.

Well said.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Ian on January 27, 2009 at 9:00am

Did I miss something? I'm here fairly often (though not as often as I used to be), but can someone point me to these posts directly?

I have this silly habit of ignoring posts that I really don't give a damn about. And when posters and/or posts get to the point of what you're describing, I have an even sillier habit of ignoring anything that poster has to say. (dr, anyone?)

So while I will agree with your assessment of the quality of this overall community having diminished to new low points at times (not to mention questionable monitoring by an admin who rarely answers my questions) I have actually found that this community has more light-beings than nutjobs, even though the nutjobs tend to post the most and squeal the loudest to feed their collective egos and try to show everyone how intelligent they try to be.

Ultimately, though, the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the positive people to recognize this difference and act accordingly, rather than expect the nutjobs to exhibit a different course of behavior than what we already expect of them.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by telefunken on January 27, 2009 at 9:03am

please pass me a fried pork skin! (I use them to scrape the green smoothie residue from between my teeth! : )

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Permalink Reply by my name is you on January 27, 2009 at 9:35am

Thank you for this post.

I've been discouraged lately, having to sift through all of the gossip, rumors, innuendo, and flat-out untruths just to find the good, informative, honest bits posted here and there.

A little cynicism can be a healthy thing, but I think it's easy to let it get out of control, especially in this community.

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Permalink Reply by Brent Hatcher on January 27, 2009 at 11:26am

I am an official nutjob. Always have been and always will be. Because I am fascinated by other nut jobs and as well as nonnutjobs. They complete me. The only difference may be that I have never dissed DW or DG. Apparently the 2 most polarizing figures in the rawfood universe.

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Permalink Reply by Ken on January 27, 2009 at 11:41am

yes, one should act positively regardless but I have to say that I often have to put energy IN to avoid falling into alot of the traps people set in this format. and when thats the case my connection with 'community' becomes kinda burdensome and unnecessary to me so I can relate.

really what you have is alot of people struggling with their own consciousness and pulling information out of everywhere...so its only natural that there are going to be those that see certain information and latch on to it 100%. The only issue is whether that person is responsible enough to filter that information and act out of kindness not out of a desire to be right and to cement their own absolutist beliefs.

In a new terrain, people are going to funnel any information through their own personal matrix of understanding, more understandable then unfortunate I suppose.

what I think is NOT ok is when people bring intentions that have nothing to do with the support of others and only service their own ideology decide to enter into someone else's matrix and start poking around and calling the shots.

when it comes to decisions about health people want push ideas like they are laws of gravity and the sky is falling.

Why they feel the need to enter into any discussion they have no experience with, like enemas or wheatgrass or whatever, and voice something they read over the internet that is now their opinion is besides me. The only appropriate and telling way someone can participate as a non-participant or judge in a particular idea is to say "hey I don't do this and things are A OK with me" or " I have had many years of experience with this and let me say that it has poor results or problems associated with it" anything adjunct is just one persons abstraction weighed against another. "So and So says all you need is x" or "says z is bad" only tells you about So and SO and nothing else.

Often its the same people that would rather talk about how the world is destroying you rather then giving you suggestions on what you CAN do. and when made aware of that fact will continue to tell you what you need is even MORE of their information. They can't stop!

People would rather set up in flames their opinion, conjecture, naivete and exaggeration and attach it to the shit they are observing before leaving it on someone elses doorstep and thinking they are helping out the community. In their head what they are doing is right, that others are ignorant of how the world works...and they know the way the worlds works. Incredibly naive, but again understandable from someone who can only cram info thought their own understanding without a greater observation.

of course these are all MY ideas, and I would be a hypocritical if I didn't suggest that what you CAN do is like the above suggestions, start your own mini-groups where you can discuss things without the naysayers, avoid threads that are loaded with go-nowhere discussion and character assassination, or enter them and set a good example instead of continuing the argument.

Always create the higher law.

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Permalink Reply by Allis☀n on January 27, 2009 at 8:15pm

Isn't there a pledge to sign regarding behavior when you join this group? I seem to remember one about supportive behavior.

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Permalink Reply by John on January 27, 2009 at 2:37pm

I guess a lot of people were noticing it.

Reading blatant lies about people, the character assasination, the ridicule and mockery. The finger pointing and blame game. Clicking on a post thinking it might be interesting, and then, upon reading it, being slapped in the face with words insulting someone I know. I guess that's what hit me. The distortions and whack comments written as if truth, and knowing others are reading it and thinking that it is true. Then repeating it in another post, and probably repeating it to others in person.

I've been around the raw community for a very long time. I clicked on here to see what was going on with other folks. Yes, there are a lot of excellent posts sharing helpful information, that is good to see. I guess I just clicked on some of the most unhelpful ones.

Some of the fanaticism reminded me of a date 12 years ago. Making my date dinner. And, upon taking a bite, her asking me what I put in it. Me mentioning cashews. Me watching her face twisting into disgust and spitting and spitting out the food as if I had fed her boiled rat toes. And her face turning red as she told me that cashews aren't raw and she doesn't eat things like that. Ugh! The quick end to a very short relationship.

Someone tripped out on me recently because I drank a glass of tap water. I asked, "Do you see any fresh mountain spring water here right here right now?" I was thirsty. They told me I'm John McCabe and I can't be drinking tap water. What? Me wunders if they hold their breath every time a car drives by so as to avoid breathing in any spec of exhaust fumes.

Seems it goes back to what kind of energy people choose to dwell in, breaking down, or building up. Focusing on what you don't like, or on that which you want. Minding what has already been created, or creating what you want to be. Being part of end results that are of energy already spent, or using energy to be part of something creating better results.

My theory used to be, when all else fails, play baseball! But some would banish me because the ball has leather on it.

Yes, ignoring the negativity and unhelpful seems to be key when reading screenage. Just like in the talk world.

Meanwhile, thanks for the interesting feeds.

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Permalink Reply by jodykwik on January 27, 2009 at 2:43pm

Ha. The cashew thing is really funny.

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