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Raw vs. Cooked: Do You Believe Dr. Fuhrman's Take? What's Your Stance?

This is from Joel Fuhrman M.D., a board–certified family physician who specializes in preventing and reversing disease through nutritional and natural methods:


Raw vs. Cooked?

Certainly, there are benefits to consuming plenty of raw fruits and vegetables. These foods supply us with high nutrient levels and are generally low in calories too. Eating lots of raw foods is a key feature of an anti-cancer diet style and a long life. But are there advantages to eating a diet of all raw foods and excluding all cooked foods? The answer is a resounding “No”. In fact, eating an exclusively raw-food diet is a disadvantage. Excluding all steamed vegetables and vegetable soups from your diet narrows your nutrient diversity and has a tendency to reduce the percentage of calories from vegetables in favor of nuts and fruits which are lower in nutrients per calorie. Raw vegetables are dramatically low in calories and we probably only absorb about 50 calories a pound from raw vegetables. Our caloric needs cannot be met on a raw food diet without consuming large amounts of fruits, avocado, nuts and seeds. This may be an adequate diet for some people, but in my 15 years of medical practice catering to the community of natural food enthusiasts, raw foodists and natural hygienists, I have seen many people who weakened their health on such raw food, vegan diets. Frequent fungal skin and nail infections, poor dentition, hair loss and muscular wasting are common on such fruit-based diets.

Unfortunately, sloppy science prevails in the raw-food movement. Raw food advocates mistakenly conclude that since many cooked foods are not healthy for us, then all cooked foods are bad. This is not true.

The idea that stirs the most enthusiasm for this diet is the contention that cooking both destroys about fifty percent of the nutrients in food, and destroys all or most of the life promoting enzymes. It is true that when food is baked at high temperatures—and especially when it is fried or barbecued—toxic compounds are formed and most important nutrients are lost. Many vitamins are water-soluble, and a significant percent can be lost with cooking, especially overcooking. Similarly, many plant enzymes function as phytochemical nutrients in our body and are useful to maximize health. They, too, can be destroyed by overcooking. However, we cannot paint with this brush of negativity over every form of cooking.

Only small amounts of nutrients are lost with conservative cooking like making a soup, but many more nutrients are made more absorbable. These nutrients would have been lost if those vegetables had been consumed raw. When we heat, soften and moisturize the vegetables and beans we dramatically increase the potential digestibility and absorption of many beneficial and nutritious compounds. We also increase the plant proteins in the diet, especially important for those eating a plant-based diet with limited or no animal products.

In many cases, cooking actually destroys some of the harmful anti-nutrients that bind minerals in the gut and interfere with the utilization of nutrients. Destruction of these anti-nutrients increases absorption. Steaming vegetables and making vegetable soups breaks down cellulose and alters the plants’ cell structures so that fewer of your own enzymes are needed to digest the food, not more. On the other hand, the roasting of nuts and the baking of cereals does reduce availability and absorbability of protein.

When food is steamed or made into a soup, the temperature is fixed at 100 degrees Celsius or 212 Fahrenheit—the temperature of boiling water. This moisture-based cooking prevents food from browning and forming toxic compounds. Acrylamides, the most generally recognized of the heat-created toxins, are not formed with boiling or steaming. They are formed only with dry cooking. Most essential nutrients in vegetables are made more absorbable after being cooked in a soup and water-soluble nutrients are not lost because we eat the liquid portion of the soup too.

Recent studies confirm that the body absorbs much more of the beneficial anti-cancer compounds (carotenoids and phytochemicals—especially lutein and lycopene) from cooked vegetables compared with raw. Scientists speculate that the increase in absorption of antioxidants after cooking may be attributed to the destruction of the cell matrix (connective bands) to which the valuable compounds are bound.

Another fallacy promoted in the raw food movement and on the web is that the fragile heat-sensitive enzymes contained in the plants we eat catalyze chemical reactions that occur in humans and aid in digestion of the food. This is not true. Plant foods do not supply enzymes that aid in their digestion when consumed by animals. Our body supplies exactly the precise amount of enzymes needed for digestion; we are not ill equipped to digest normal food. The plant enzymes are broken down into simpler molecules by our own powerful digestive juices and even those that are absorbed as peptide size pieces (or with some biologic function) do not function to catalyze human functions. So it is not true that eating raw food demands less enzyme production by your body. A healthy body produces the precise amount of enzymes needed to digest the ingested food appropriately and the enzymes our body uses for other processes are unique to our human needs and are not present in plants. We make what we need from the proper materials.

In conclusion, eating lots of raw foods is a feature of a healthy diet. I always encourage people to eat more raw food. One of my common statements is—the salad is the main dish. Raw food is necessary for digestive efficiency, proper peristalsis and normal bowel function. Certain foods, especially fruit, avocado and nuts undergo significant change with cooking and are best eaten raw. Baking, frying, barbecuing and other high heat cooking methods that brown and damage food form acrylamides, which are carcinogenic. Browning and other high heat cooking methods should be avoided. Cooking techniques like steaming vegetables, stewing foods in a pressure cooker and soup making, do not have these drawbacks. They do not brown foods or form acrylamides.

Eating raw food is necessary for good health and is an important feature of a healthy diet. But that does not mean that one’s entire diet has to be raw to be in excellent health. It also does not mean eating an all raw diet is the healthiest way to eat. It is healthier to expand your nutrient density, your absorption of plant protein and your nutrient diversity with the inclusion of some conservatively cooked food in your diet.

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The terms "cooked" and "raw" might not be what you think they are... Susun Weed explains that ripe fruit is "cooked" by the sun, that fruit and vegetables picked too early (for consumption via grocery stores) are not nutritious, and that oil and vinegar "cooks" food by breaking down the cell walls.

It is also agreed on both sides of the debate that little is really known about enzymes and what happens to enzyme-rich foods once they reach the stomach.

Anyway, please take a look:






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I saw this a while ago and thought they were both under-qualified. Especially ridiculous was the "apple" example.

It seems as if these are two people who are so invested in their beliefs that they would NEVER be able to hear an opposing opinion, no matter what information was put in front of them.

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That is the nature of formal debates (inflexibility of beliefs and saving face).

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The rawfoodist relies too heavily on religion and is vastly undereducated, the cooked side keeps insisting that practically everything is "cooked," which is just a huge over-generalization and abuse of the word, in my opinion. She wins merely because she is not timid and can speak in scientific terms, nevermind that she is misusing that science.

Also... What does make sense is that she keeps insisting that raw food has no nutrition, but states that all ripe food is cooked food. So her claiming that a diet based in raw food supplies no nutrition is assuming that a raw foodist is never consuming ripe food.

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Yes, on one level it's about semantics -- yet what I think is the most interesting part of this is Susun's discussion of eating fruit that is sooo depleted in nutrition because of the economics of food bought from the store (and not the farmer) and the discussion on enzymes.

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Right. I noticed the same things about both too. Nonetheless, I enjoyed their perspectives. There were compelling arguments on both sides, as well as the obvious weaknesses.

In "Seven Minutes to Raw!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMrhvki5oW4), Brigitte Mars talks about "cooking without heat" to make kale salad as "as tender as if it had been steamed for five minutes." She talks about "cooking" with marinating, fermenting, etc.

I doubt she would fully meet Susun on what is truly cooked, but I enjoyed listening to how the two grappled with these issues.

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Just look at the two of them, Brigitte Mars looks incredible, Susun Weed looks like an old witch! But seriously though, take a look at the living examples of their talk. That's what it is all about.

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Exactly -Weed should be composted - her whole trip is all a radical ego trip - she has said that eating hog is just like pre-digested grass...Ayurveda presents a metaphysical science -not a dogma (in-spite of how dogmatic some Ayurvedic drs may be)

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"Susun Weed explains that ripe fruit is "cooked" by the sun"
"and that oil and vinegar "cooks" food by breaking down the cell walls."

Her logic falls short because she is altering definitions of words to her liking in order to present an argument.

"breaking down cell walls" is not "cooking" although one is a subset of the other. If "breaking down cell walls" is what defined cooking, then I would be cooking my food by chewing it.

fruit ripening in the sun is not cooking, as evidenced by the fact that a raw grape tastes and feels much different than a grape cooked by even the gentlest of techniques. The process of sun ripening does not denature fats proteins and enzymes the way cooking does. I think even a child would see that these are two different things.

she has some sneaky debate skills.

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Very true -- that's why there wasn't any "argument" from Brigitte. Brigitte, as Rawzilla points out (see above), has a video where she talks about cooking without heat.

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This doesn't resonate with my body.

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Most people I know who go raw experience an amazing transformation. But I do have one friend who was wasting away on a cooked diet.(no matter how much steak she ate) Going raw didn't fix it, BUT, when she added steamed vegetables and quinoa to her raw diet, and went low-fat she began to regain strength and body mass.

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