No, never said out of here, in fact, I spent 9 months building content on my page and started a group "The Runners", and contributed to over 800 discussions. I thought many times about leaving and deleting my account, during times mainly of difficulty or disagreement, but I never did, because I didn't want to lose all the content.
There was especially something very dear to me there. A discussion I started asking for prayer for my nephew, who had jumped out of a car moving about 55 miles an hour. There were so many compassionate people on there who supported me with prayers, concern and well wishes during all of that, which his healing is still going on by the way. But, now with one push of a button DR and Freelea have deleted it all for me. I cried last night when I thought about.
thanks for clearing this, I only said correct me if I am wrong. There was , I guess another person using banana in profile name then.........My appologies for implying that..........I remember that thread. My prayers were there too..............
Permalink Reply by Kait on September 8, 2009 at 2:22pm
I really liked logging on to 30bad when I was feeling low motivation or the low vibes of my SAD environment were getting to me. Such an acute concentration of self-healers and fruit-fueled athletes, but these past few days we've lost some of the greatest contributors to the site, and the forums are filled with drama, witch hunts, slander and libel.
Anyone wanna create a separate high-fruit network so we can continue to motivate and support each other in health and fitness?
If someone is going crazy - they usually don't realize it- I think the same thing can happen to social networks. A kind of mass hysteria. Why do they need witch hunts? It doesn't make sense.
Once your body has been deprived of the vitamin B complex due to reasons stated above, it begins to show symptoms (signs) of altered, diminished or poor health. This is because the vitamin B complex (within foods, not vitamin pills) is responsible for such a wide variety of activities, including cellular differentiation, transmission of nerve electricity, health of nerve cells, heart pulse rate, muscular contraction, digestion, brain function, thought processes and energy production. Without adequate vitamin B complex from foods, you can experience one or more of any one of these symptoms:
mental problems
heart palpitations
heart arrythmias
fibrillation
indigestion
chronic fatigue
chronic exhaustion
paranoia, vague fears, fear that something dreadful is about to happen
nervousness
ADD (attention deficiency), inability to concentrate, irritability
feeling of uneasiness
thoughts of dying
easy agitation, frustration
inability to sleep (insomnia)
restlessness
tingling in hands
tingling fingers and toes
rashes
crying spells, inability to cope
soreness all over
and so much more.
CHRONIC VITAMIN B DEFICIENCY
Vitamin B deficiency can sneak up on you, because it doesn’t have to create serious health problems right away. In fact, medical researchers have discovered that very often there can be no detectable signs according to scientific instrumentation, that you are experiencing a deficiency. For example, “memory impairment due to vitamin B12 deficiency can precede blood symptoms of deficiency by years. Evidence that vitamin B12 deficiency accounts for some cognition deficits in older people comes from a study that revealed abnormal short-term memory in more than two-thirds of clients with pernicious anemia…The researchers recommend that a diagnosis of senile dementia should not be made, even in the absence of anemia, until vitamin B12 status is determined biochemically.” (Hamilton, p. 476) This means that it is possible that certain mental disorders can be directly attributable to vitamin B complex deficiency, and it is easier to first start replenishing stores of vitamin B complex than to begin treating difficult mental illnesses with drugs, therapy or psychological counseling.
When vitamin B deficiency becomes chronic (long-lasting), other problems can occur, including troubles with your adrenal system. The adrenal glands serve many purposes, but in relation to this topic, they are the back up system for making energy. When there is a chronic lack of vitamin B complex then the adrenal glands are called upon to produce quick energy by injecting certain hormones like adrenaline into your system so that you can cope with life. If this goes on for a long time, then the adrenal glands become impaired or worn out, leading to even more health problems.
"If someone is going crazy - they usually don't realize it"
LOL!!! This is so true. And I totally believe your theory on the B deficiency.
Unfortunately, I saw all of this coming. I knew just from lurking, and from what got responded to and what didn't, that 30bad was breaking down. And DR and Free have never seemed particularly helpful or supportive to me. Just as someone said there yesterday I believe, its funny that when you need their help them never appear to be online and later issue statements to the effect that they are living life and made a commitment to be as gadget-free as possible (I'm definitely para-phrasing). But since all of this has occurred, you realize that they are actually there all of the time, lurking, reading, discussing, and noting who is working "against" them. Thus, the site is now at a point where you can make one comment and be banned within the same day.
What's amazing, is the that the only people who have been completely committed to that site and the members of that site were the first one's to go! If it had not been for RGG and Michele, that site would have been severely lacking in support from both the aspect of personal experience, as well as information from books. Neet (RGG) had no problem sharing herself and her experiences with us. And Michele had a vast library and took the time to quote pages and pages from her library, as well as sharing her personal experiences. And they both brought a sense of humor, tranquility and level-headedness to that site.
I can honestly say that I now believe they are doomed to failure. I have put them in the same category as Alissa's site. If I can't be true to who I am and what I'm about without the fear of being banned or told that I'm not good enough to be there, I just won't go there in the first place.
I have been thinking of leaving that site for months. And stayed simply because people like RGG and Michele were there. And now I'm staying to spy. TeeHeeHee! Let's see how long it takes them to come over here, read this post, and ban me. Or better yet, lets see how long it takes one of their spies to come here, report back, and then suggest my banning. As I think this is also a tactic that has been going on over there.
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes...they don't tell the truth. Smiling faces, smiling faces tell liiiiiiiies, and I got proof. LOL! (Old soul song from the 70s). Nevermind. Guess ya had to be there. LOL! =D
Honestly, I think it also boils down to jealousy. More people call out to RGG and Michele on that site for assistance and support than anyone else there ... from what I have seen. And it is definitely noticed if they are not there...even for a day. And when you have control issues, this does not sit very well. So they took it for as long as they could, let the ladies build up the community to a legitimate place of support, and then they showed their true colors. I actually feel sorry for them, as I do anyone who is oblivious to their own flaws.
Please join me in a moment of silence for 30bad...
I don't really think they are spying on the site, I think maybe Freelea, who is still a member here is following the site. So that's how they maybe keeping track of what's going on over here. They have shut the site out to all non members. Unless you belong you cannot audit 30 BaD. That is control and paranoia, I'd say.
They have to be there now to monitor 30 BaD, because 2 of their best moderators left on their own.
Hi BR. I wasn't saying that Free & DR were on this site spying on 811ers. I was saying that on 30bad, I believe that there are members there who email Free & DR and tell them about specific posts so that they will review them and possibly ban or stop comments. They have said something to that effect in the past, like "we have received several emails/complaints". And I was saying that those members of 30bad who email Free & DR to complain possibly have accounts here as well and can therefore continue their complaining process.
So now their site is available for viewing by all, without having to have an account. Hmmm, coincidence? lol exactly!
Hey Sweetie! I missed you! lol! Glad to see that you are still around and doing well.
I just want to tell you how much I really appreciate you Neet. You were the first person there for me. And you and Michele were the last people there for me as far as that site is concerned.
And you are a beautiful person, doing your best to live a beautiful life. And I hope that you don't bring your vibe down by focusing on this for too long. The support is great, knowing that people love you and care about what happens to you. But as far as that site goes, it doesn't exist. And I would not venture to mention those guys again. They have issues. Hope they recover, and move on.
But me, I'm doing ok. Not doing as well as I want to on my raw journey right now. Kind of back and forth. But I'm not beating myself up, which is important. Just joined connie's group too. Looking forward to being approved.
Lara bars are not naked because raw almonds are all pasteurized I am sure
I had the bulk section cacao goji bar the other day cause I went into a coop with my friend