I just found out I was banned from 30 Bananas a Day....

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Permalink Reply by Rawgreengoddess on September 10, 2009 at 5:52am

Rawzilla,what do you mean by cultured food,would like to know more about your way of eating,you are a good physical example of this way of eating..:)

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on September 10, 2009 at 1:34pm

Thanks, RGG. Cultured food (such as raw sauerkraut, coconut kifer, or goat kefir) is food that has been "cultured" to grow healthy yeast-eating bacteria [and sometimes contains a good-for-you yeast strain too]). The process of fermentation (where the food sits at room temperature for a few days or a week while it "ferments") allows the micro-flora to start breaking down the food, so that when you eat it, it's easier to digest.

It's a whole-food form of probiotics.

It is basically very colon-friendly food, rich with bacteria, enzymes, and life. In The Body Ecology Diet, Donna Gates recommends eating it with every meal, to aid digestion.

My favorite store-bought brand:
http://www.rejuvenative.com/articleRCV.htm

Also a wiki definition of dairy kefir:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

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Permalink Reply by Rawgreengoddess on September 10, 2009 at 5:22pm

ahuh thank you for sharing this Rawzilla...it makes sense on certain levels thats for sure, iam so pleased this is working for you xo

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on September 10, 2009 at 6:45pm

Thanks, RGG. :-)

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Permalink Reply by jodykwik on September 9, 2009 at 7:32pm

can't say i've noticed drastic mood swings eating high fruit...and eating high fruit--in a particular manner--has reversed a systemic candida problem i had previously...and overall i feel the most mentally and emotionally healthy i have ever i think. so i'm not sure i can say as a blanket statement that eating high fruit conclusively has any one effect on everyone...but i will always listen to my body and how i feel as the ultimate test as to what i eat. and i'm always open to hearing what anyone's experience is with personal diet choices.

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Permalink Reply by Irrevocable on September 9, 2009 at 7:43pm

I agree with you that food can play a role in your mood...hence why I chose to stop eating chocolate and other such things that made me swing like no tomorrow...but I don't think it is the only factor.

Thank you for clarifying your point though - it makes more sense to me now :)

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on September 9, 2009 at 8:11pm

Thank you for your comment too, and I agree with you that food is not the only factor affecting our moods. If only it were that easy, lol!

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Permalink Reply by Banana Runner on September 10, 2009 at 8:00am

That's the main "anti-candida" basis of the low-fat high fruit diet, and when you think about each type of food either fruit or fat (nuts, nut butters, avocados, seeds, seed pates, etc) which is calorically more than twice as dense as fruit, which category is more physiological proper/active for fuel for the cells of the body? Carbohydrates, especially the fructose contained in fruit. It is easily converted to glucose, the main fuel used by all cells of the body. Converting fat to glucose is a much more complicated process for the body, requiring energy and time. The process from my understanding is similar to the chemical process used to make alcohol.

So I believe that avoiding the fat and choosing the food source that provides the most bioavailable fuel makes the most sense.

When I first started 811rv it took a while for my body to rid itself of the candida and I had horrible healing/cleansing reactions to the point where I thought the fruit was actually making my candida worse, but it was actually my body healing and riding itself of the candida that existed in every cell of my body. It is only when I eat to much dietary fat or mis-combine overt fat that I have a "bloom" and that only lasts a day or so and then I'm pretty much back to normal.

I have to also mention the whole idea of expanding and contracting. It is true that fruit is very expanding (a lot sugar and vitamins but not a lot of minerals), so it needs to be balanced with plenty of green leafy vegetables (high mineral).

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Permalink Reply by telefunken on September 10, 2009 at 8:59am

How could it "seem odd" that people have strong opinions here or anywhere? It's the nature of debate and discussion. It's expected and good imo.

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Permalink Reply by Martbook on September 10, 2009 at 9:46am

My candida symptoms receded substantially in only a week when I switched to a modified 811 diet with large amounts of fruit.

I feel best when I eat lots of fruit, enough veggies and leafy greens and some extra lean protein sources from time to time.

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on September 10, 2009 at 1:22pm

I think it's good to have diverging points of view, even if some of us feel very strongly that we are right. I am here, in part, for diverse perspectives.

I guess what stands out for me the most in this 811 thread is simple: Although a handful of "one-time candida" people are feeling good, there are so many disastrous cases I have been reading about on these blogs and forums, as well with people I've met. And of course there was my own experience.

There are other time-tested and generally accepted diets that don't put you at risk for major catastrophes, but 811 clearly does--no matter if it works for some. The risk of what can (and does) go wrong is why I would never, never, never recommend this diet to anyone, and why the experts in the field include fasting from fruit during the early phases of the candida-fighting diet. (And some of them also exclude fat at the same time--but still NO fruit.)

Bottom line: Fat or no fat, fruit feeds yeast.

I think it is great that some of you are doing well. I know what it's like to search and search for the diet that feels like it is truly helping you.

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Permalink Reply by telefunken on September 9, 2009 at 7:42pm

ahhhhh......well said!, Irrevocable.

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