HIV=Aids Myth

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Permalink Reply by Anne on January 5, 2009 at 3:46pm

Interesting discussion topic Ben.
Over 20 years ago, I was lent a little book, by a friend, which was all about how AIDS was not caused or related to HIV.
It was an amazing book, I can't remember who it was by.
Ever since then I have regarded the conventional theories about Aids and HIV in a very different light.

I tend to think that dis-eases, that would formally have been labeled with other names are now called 'AIDS'.
People whose health and immunity are compromised and who have health challenges are now likely to be labeled as Aids 'victims'.
It is quite the scaremongering and using the term 'victim' implies that the individual is at the mercy of 'AIDS' and has no control over their own health.

I remember when I was at uni, AIDS was first making news and everyone was so scared.

Love and peace XX.

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Permalink Reply by Ben on January 5, 2009 at 3:53pm

Thanks Anne for your comments.

Aids certainly isn't a new disease, and I would say that it can be treated and cured, through proper diet, exercise, and keeping oneself healthy.

It is interesting that the book gave light to AIDS and HIV in that way so many years ago.

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Permalink Reply by Ian on January 5, 2009 at 3:56pm

It was probably Rappoport's AIDS Inc., as he investigated a multitude of scenarios that could cause immune deficiency that had nothing to do with the virus we now called "HIV", which was called HTLV-III from 1984-1987, and was called LAV from 1983-1984.

I'm a tad skeptical about the HIV myth as well. The CDC and the NIH completely botched this one up, and 28 years and billions of dollars later, they are still just as clueless about the cause of AIDS as they were on June 5, 1980 when they declared an "epidemic" was at hand.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Ben on January 5, 2009 at 6:39pm

I'm curious about what people think and less interested in a debate.

If you are interested in this topic, I encourage doing your own research, as many different links and books have been provided in this topic.

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Permalink Reply by Ben on January 5, 2009 at 11:11pm

My main resources are:

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/index.htm

duesberg.com

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html

and cosmic awareness which is a channel for creator and all that is.

I will state that carefully trained channels are invaluable, for they have no control over what comes through.

They are simply relays for information, and this channel has proven to be highly accurate and insightful, so that is why I use it as a source.

In one issue, Cosmic Awareness, aka god, or all that is, creator, talked extensively about hiv and aids.

And towards the end of the issue, it addressed and clearly stated that hiv is not the cause of aids, interestingly enough.

Here is the issue: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html

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Permalink Reply by Chris Carlton on January 5, 2009 at 7:00pm

It's been 3 years since I researched this and I'm not going to re-read all of that so I can give more detailed responses. The information is out there to be found. The above statement on the outcome of AIDS drugs is the opposite of everything I read. I've already posted this here.

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Permalink Reply by Ian on January 5, 2009 at 11:05pm

Would you care to provide specific studies and surveys? And who exactly debunked this myth 10 years ago? Based on your sources, what exactly is as clear as night and day?

I look forward to a detailed response to my questions.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Chris Carlton on January 6, 2009 at 12:51am

I didn't write all those books. I'm not personally involved with this issue, however for the record what I currently believe is... (I'm not a Doctor, This is my opinion)

AIDS has no specific definition. There is no AIDS test that says yep, there is the AIDS, right there. It is a "syndrome" which to me kinda says 'not pill treatable' anyway. The symptoms classified with AIDS are all symptoms that are not new and have been around for years.

This is no actual HIV test either. You can't see HIV, you can only see 'evidence' of HIV. Many who are HIV+ come out HIV- when re-tested because simple things like being under the influence of a Flu virus or on a long string of non-stop partying can cause the same type 'evidence' to show up.

The first AIDS drugs we're not new, they were created in the 60's by someone working on a chemotherapy type approach to something else. (another line of thinking, I don't adhere to) Putting so much poison in you that it kills the disease. Great Plan!!! These drugs were shelved back then for a reason.

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Permalink Reply by Chris Carlton on January 6, 2009 at 1:28am

If I believe in something.
If I also believe it's fatal.
If I also then believe that I have this thing.
Then...
I have no hope, my belief alone is more than enough to kill me!

One of the biggest 'cause of health problems in healthy people is that we all believe that we are dying. If I believe that I am dying. I will be right. Something will get me! This is the 'downfall' of consciousness, it puts us in charge. This is also our greatest gift. It is the source of our power. It's my mind and bodies job to carry out my beliefs. That's the whole lesson, we are who we believe we are. Some of us believe we are good, some of us believe we are evil, some of us believe we are crazy and some of us do not. You can re-decide who you believe you are at any moment.

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Permalink Reply by Ben on January 6, 2009 at 9:28am

Hello Starfire, I don't believe anyone here is saying AIDS is a hoax.

AIDS has been around almost as long as humans have.

We are questioning how people get AIDS.

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Permalink Reply by Teran McKinney on January 5, 2009 at 6:13pm

I'm not convinced either way, but I have seen some videos evidencing that HIV is a hoax. I will have to look into this more.

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Permalink Reply by Mogwai on January 5, 2009 at 7:11pm

So why do the women who are given anti virals live and thse who dont die..in Africa and elswhere, or all those men who take theier meds are still alive..?????

Oh I wish there was no connection but there is...and ignorance = death in the sense that if your not careful and dont practice safe sex you can get the HIV virus and maybe then go on to get AIDS and remember that means acquired immune deficiency....or rather a disease that is catalised by the HIV to weaken good cells and bred the bad ones...who cares if the HIV causes it or not..its a blood indicator of the high possiblility of damage that can occur...if it is or isnt the main reason who cares..its the main indicator and maybe the real thing is too small to have been noticed or too cleverly camofloged.

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