High fat raw diet and body fat loss?

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Permalink Reply by Ian on January 14, 2009 at 10:13pm

I don't understand the low fat thing, quite honestly. I find nothing wrong with raw fats, and my body reacts very nicely to them.

Raw comfort foods? :-)

Ian

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Permalink Reply by wellwrought on January 14, 2009 at 10:57pm

JuiceItUp,

Yes, from what I've been reading I agree with you about dietary fat not causing adipose accumulation. I've also come across some stuff about how insulin spikes, even more so than calorie amounts, cause the storage of body fat. Looking at the glycemic index, I notice that avocado has one of the lowest numbers, suggesting that it triggers relatively little insulin release.

This adds up in my mind to mean that getting a large percentage of calories in my diet from the marvelous and tummy-happy-making avocado would be a good idea for fat loss. But I questioned that notion when I saw so many posters advising 80/10/10- ish schemes for fat loss instead. Perhaps the caloric density of raw fat is what folks are cautioning against? I guess it would certainly be easier for me to eat excessive avocado calories than excessive apple calories, for example.

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Permalink Reply by VOID on January 16, 2009 at 10:49am

Juice it up,

The low fat raw approach to eating has nothing to do with body fat. Its generally accepted either as a concept, or through experience that people can struggle to gain weight on a diet high in plant fats.

The reason most people dont stick to the diet is because they get deficient either in calories, protein, efa's or minerals. Its not that the diet cant be providing sufficient nutrients with a low fat intake, its that people often just dont plan their diets well.

Take care

Adam x

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Permalink Reply by Amber on January 14, 2009 at 10:26pm

I would advise that in the beginning stages not to worry about fat content, food combining or any of the other specifications surrounding what is 'wright' and what is 'wrong' with regards to consuming raw food. Just eat what taste good and keeps you away from the sad diet.

It may sound naiive to think that your body will eventually adjust your pallet, but, as long as your paying attention, this is exactly what your body will do.

Keep eating whatever raw food you like, pay attention to what happens during and after you finish eating it (how do you feel? Is degesting this food comfortable? and so forth) Incorporate habits that you KNOW are good for you. Like Drinking more water or eating as much hydrating food as you can throughout the day. Adding more and more dark leafy greens.

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Permalink Reply by jen on January 14, 2009 at 10:48pm

i second this.

don't worry, just eat and eat what you enjoy. pleasure, pleasure, pleasure and drink tons of water cause you'll be detoxing. get some hydro colon therapy done and take up skin brushing.

you will totally lean out.

somewhere down the line...you might find that you feel better on more sugars (fruits) and sluggish on fats OR you could find the opposite. some people's constitution runs best on fat, others sugar. others, somewhere in between.

i find i need lots of fat to stay feeling good and lean. you'll figure out what's best for you eventually. but for now, just eat, find your favourite foods, enjoy and drink tons of water.

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Permalink Reply by wellwrought on January 14, 2009 at 10:50pm

Amber,

Thanks-- sounds totally sensible. Especially the part about the leafy greens. I've been green-starved my whole life, I'm only now realizing.

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Permalink Reply by Vaughn Sadekni on January 14, 2009 at 10:39pm

Nothing wrong with fat at all. But like everything dont overdue it. I found 8/1/1 to be too resticting. No herbs, roots, mushrooms, and less than 10% from fat. What the hell is that? If you restricted a wild animal to that kind of lifestyle they would totally flip out. haha cant you just see a cow or chimp freaking out that they consumed too much fat? haha yeah right!
Follow you heart and listen to your body and not your mind.

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Permalink Reply by wellwrought on January 14, 2009 at 10:48pm

Vaughn,

I like the ring of that advice a lot: "Follow your heart and listen to your body and not your mind." Trouble is, just now, my mind-body connection is pretty confused. For years I thought (ha-ha!) that my body wanted pizza and pasta. How do you go about tuning in to what your body wants?

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Permalink Reply by Vaughn Sadekni on January 14, 2009 at 11:50pm

Your body did not want pizza and pasta. You (your mind) wanted pizza and pasta because that is what you were accustomed to. Eat as raw as possible and soon your body will crave raw foods instead. It all takes time and dont rush things. Learn yoga and learn how to meditate. These two help you reconnect with your body and its needs.

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Permalink Reply by Marte on January 29, 2009 at 3:32am

You can eat FRESH herbs like basil and parsley and cilantro :) And you can eat root veggies, just not on a daily basis.

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Permalink Reply by Susan Virginia on February 3, 2009 at 1:37pm

Don't forget DILL! Carrot dill salad!!! mmm my fav.

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Permalink Reply by s on January 14, 2009 at 11:56pm

a lot of people tend to find that after doing raw for a while, they gravitate naturally to low-fat. as for me, i jumped right in with 811 and found it gave me all sorts of trouble. but when i went to the other extreme (major fat), i still naturally lessened my fat intake until now without even thinking about it.
eat when you're hungry, stop when you're full, and stock your pantry and fridge with stuff you like. try not to let any shoulds come into play in this game.
s

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