Give it to me Raw

Over the last few months I have witnessed durianrider attempt to ridicule, Brian Clement, Gabriel Cousins, Robert Young, David Wolfe, Edward Howell to name but a few. These people alone have around 150 years of experience and research in food nutrition. He sometimes makes the most outrageous remarks and fails to deliver any supporting data time and time again. When challenged, he usually responds with some flippant remark or more often fails to respond at all. My favourite Durianrider quotes are the recent ones;

'i do a bit of shopping for my grandma. i brought around some cert organic gala apples. she told me they are too hard on her body and she only eats golden delicious. grandma told me this whilst eating a msg soaked bbq chip..lol!

i always have a giggle when crew diss fruit and they are eating cancer fodder.

i used to get frustrated about it, but ive learnt that some crew are genetically damaged mentally and cant uptake basic human physiology info. being raw has really taught me what acceptance and tolerance really is

so im gonna add acceptance and tolerance to the 811 lifestyle as key factors to thriving in this cooked world'.


And the classic reply when asked to justify why humans need to train to run 26 miles;

'hey, you never know when a tsunami is coming! better to be in shape than not be in shape dont you reckon?'

What's your favourite Durianrider quote?

So if you are new to Raw food please beware Durianrider has only one message- 811 is the only dietary option. Most experienced Raw foodists disagree with this and unlike Durianrider are prepared to back their statements up.

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exactly !!!!!!! here here Sheryl
I can't disagree about how he lives. He is an inspiration on many levels.

but,

Does that require us to give him a pass to judge and mock how everyone decides to run their version of a raw food diet? Do the ends justify the means?
Maybe DR pays too much attention to food and not enough to Ego awareness? May be a fault of his that he is either working through or denying. Maybe we, as his community brothers and sisters, can begin to support him in efforts to rectify this imbalance instead of making fun of him for it?
I guess I can't argue against this spirit, mish. But I also can't read minds or intentions...I can only read his words. And the other problem is that I have a full time job working on my own issues. How am I supposed to feel motivated to assist someone who has literally laughed at me for what I want to eat? Please help me find the motivation to help him.
I'm not sure I follow. Is this in support of DR working out his issues with disregard for everyone else? I need more thoughts.
TF...I don't feel one way or the other as I have only had a chance to actually meet a handful of my wonderful online friends here. I have never met or really spoken to DR. But I do think the humble spirit of this comment is might big of you.
Suvine, people can say what they like about me as long they stick to the facts, as I have done.
isn't it also a rule that those who arrive to force one particular diet on others aren't welcome?
well, yes, I do understand that we are not sitting in a room together. I think you know what I mean though. I'm talking about his disrespect and belittling of those who don't eat what he eats. We don't need to argue the semantics I'm sure.
Suvine said: This sounds like a personal attack. Take this up with Drumhil
.... and delete this thread. He will take care of it.

most of durians threads are mocking and belittling and preaching that everyone must adopt 811rv or be laughed at. (look at the constant use of "lol" in his remarks.....lol = laughing out loud)

the site rules of conduct clearly state that those who do this are not welcome.

Suvine said: After all you don't want anyone to start a thread mocking and excluding you?

actually, if we all agree to be accountable for what we say....who would be afraid to defend themselves given accurate quoted reference to each remark? Chris is quoting actual DR here. Chris is not blindly attacking. His discussion has merit.
durianrider is welcome here! all day everyday 24/7, 365 and 366 on a leap year!

everyone is welcome here.....except for production pushers, they are the true scum of the cyber world.
(to -akarc843d) but just as you and I have used our judgment to either believe it or not (any info on this public forum), it is the responsibility of the individual to connect to DRs info or not. In regard to the food trials I have had, I welcome every side of every persons personal experience, but if it sounds like crap to me I move on. I would not like to know that some of the info regarding certain forms of diet have been censored. I have experimented with many. If DRs powerful opinions were expelled I dont think I would have tried 811. I dont know if that is the best way for me, but I got interested in trying 811 after reading DRs super duper enthusiasm.
Let the newcomers sort out and sift through all this in their own way. They "get roped in" through their own will to explore, DR is not hypnotizing anyone, I dont think?
It is not our duty to "protect" them from info or opinions of members here.

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