does durianrider really have any idea?

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Permalink Reply by Sheryl <--the original! on December 4, 2008 at 4:47pm

thats a good one

Permalink Reply by Cam on December 4, 2008 at 6:06pm

I think DR does have an idea. He has found a system (not just diet) that seems to be working very well for him and he is passionate about sharing it with others. Remember, 811 is not all about diet. There are many many other lifestyle factors involved that determine health in an individual. He seems to be practicing not only the diet but also the other factors that are equally important (lots of fresh air, adequate sunlight, exercise etc...) I commend him for his discipline and perseverance. Who else is leading in this arena? Who else stands out? Who else is an example of someone making any program work?

Anyone who has ever made any significant change in this world has been an extremist (in the eyes of the general public) to a degree. They help us think outside the box and challenge our current beliefs.

Why is it that DR offends some and not others? If DR was in fact offensive he would offend everyone. When in reality he is only offending those who CHOOSE to be offended. So therein lies the problem (or challenge). No offence can be given if none is taken. So don’t take offence. It won’t do you any good anyway :) Sticks and stones….

Permalink Reply by Amy O'Rourke on December 4, 2008 at 6:31pm

...may break my bones but words can only hurt me if they challenge my way of thinking.

Permalink Reply by telefunken on December 4, 2008 at 11:51pm

Adom, very well said. How can someone who claims such connection to life and natural systems have complete disregard for the nuanced (analog) nature of life? How can anyone speak in absolutes, "either - ors" (digital) when complexity dictates incalculable outcomes?

Lack of tolerance and acceptance looks more and more like a trap if seen through the confines of the digital lens.

Permalink Reply by yoda on December 4, 2008 at 8:04pm

I don't think this thread can be seen as a public service announcement for future readers - they'll find DR's comments in other threads, but they're unlikely to find this particular warning thread, if people need to be warned about disinformation, they need to be warned in the thread that contains that info. Otherwise people will find the thread with the disinformation and there will be no correction (because of an announcement here, they have been warned) and the disinformation stands unchallenged.

As for the title, I think it was a good play against DR's Does GC have any idea :) but it went a bit personal/taken seriously. DR does seem to be incapable of any actual exchange of ideas, he has his ideas, and he has his ideas, and he has his ideas, everything else is not his ideas and wrong according to his ideas, an attitude generally referred to as fundamentalism. If that fundamentalism needs any warning, it needs to be done where he spouts that fundamentalism, not in a stand alone thread. Stand alone threads are too easily interpreted as personal attacks and poor durianrider needs to be defended.
DR doesn't need to be defended, but DR needs to follow through on his spurts of DR wisdom. My impression is he can't manage any depth to the discussion and gives up when questioned (one shouldn't question the truth). So if any warnings need to be made it should be about his statements, not about DR.

Re people going on about how he rides bikes and doesn't use fuel, he lives as he speaks, really connected - he's done at least 6 international flights in 2008, that easily knocks out bike power as the way to go, he's done more miles on shiny aeroplanes than bikes, live to ride the shiny aeroplane, right on!!!! Eat local grown food after an aeroplane flight to get to the local food, Dr Doug does it with escaping the English winter too, so it must be a righteous walk the talk. All done in the name of spreading 811 and paying carbon offset credits makes it OK.

DR’s approach would probably be great in the flesh for a bootcamp style re-education, problem is bootcamp approach on the internet is too easily interpreted by anyone that doesn't think a Tony Robbins-like guru has the answers as fundamentalist waffle, and for those that think a Tony Robbins-like presentation is dynamic and the answer, DR has it!!!! There is an audience for DR, some of that is here. DR knows how to attract attention (gee look at the size of this thread!!!!!!), but a lot of the time it is attracting attention to himself rather than the content, he's famous in his own mind for being banned by multiple message boards that are bored by his approach, his interpretation is they couldn't cope with the truth. He thinks he's famous for being a leading 811rv, but it's his approach and how it irritates some/many. If he could get the focus of others off his approach and onto the message, it would be such a different reception. Sure it's the fault of the audience misinterpreting what he wants them to notice, it's got nothing to do with him, he walks his talk, or rides his bike or an aeroplane.

I'll continue to correct any statements I recognise as incorrect that DR and anyone else makes.

As for quoting DR gems, there are so many, I wouldn't know where to start - I just take them one at a time in the context they are posted.

Permalink Reply by RAW is the LAW on December 4, 2008 at 8:58pm

for all what? all humans or all beings?
peace for all beings, including chicks RZ ! ! !

Permalink Reply by telefunken on December 5, 2008 at 12:01am

Yoda, well said.

Permalink Reply by Ian on December 6, 2008 at 11:11am

And, RawZi, I don't believe she was referring to you as Lucifer, I believe she was speaking about Starfire. Just so that we clear the air. She told me it wasn't me or RawTastic so that left you and Starfire...now that we are being open about our conversations

Looks like we have a modern-day Jim Rockford here! Well done, PLA!!! :-)

And I agree that I hope to see more open conversations here in the future as well. I always seem to misplace my GITMR Decoder Ring and I get tired when I try to decipher the meanings of others in their spooky, cryptic language.

Ian

Permalink Reply by Ian on December 6, 2008 at 11:19am

Wouldn't you say that calling someone Lucifer is stooping a little low?

I guess it depends. Does the person in question have red skin, horns, and a pitchfork in their hand?

;-)

Ian

Permalink Reply by Chris Burt on December 6, 2008 at 11:24am

Starfire, don't leave, you will be playing right into their hands. How Dhru lets this venomous, deranged individual get away with it is beyond me.

Permalink Reply by Chris Burt on December 6, 2008 at 11:29am

You know she is mentally unstable, don't let such a low life get to you. Your contribution to this site is invaluable and you are a well respected member of this community.

Permalink Reply by Charles on December 6, 2008 at 11:34am

Get topic you started. Really accomplished a lot.

Let's not talk about food. Let's attack others and get everyone else riled up.

Very helpful to this site. Good job.

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