Cancer.. Cancer.. Cancer... The Crying Shame.

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Permalink Reply by Debbie Took on June 26, 2009 at 2:23am

Video about cancer and raw.


http://www.ravediet.com/caHealingcancer.htm

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on June 26, 2009 at 10:45am

YUP.

I have Kaufman's The Fungus Link and The Germ that Causes Cancer and have known this for many years. This is very bad news for the medical industrial complex (and the big food industries), which is why it keeps getting swept under the carpet.

Also, this is why sugar, candidiasis, and cancer are clearly linked!

As usual, I find myself waiting for the world to catch up. It starts off as "conspiracy theory," then "controversy" (e.g., vaccines, Iraq War/WMD, tobacco), then the celebrities and mass media catch on, and, if it can't be squashed with lies and power anymore, change slowly takes place with policies and the scientific canon.

As for those "cause" walks, donation "options" at the mainstream stores (the request is built into the credit card machine!), and all those decorative ribbons and pins (consumption, consumption)--what a total scam capitalizing on the (albeit herd mentality) genuine compassion of the masses.

Whenever I see those ribbons and "Would you like to donate?" things, I feel like I really live in The Matrix.

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Permalink Reply by ben "the beekeeper" stiller on June 26, 2009 at 10:58am

More on that...

In Kauffman's book he clearly states that even tobacco never caused cancer until the incorporation of additives and pesticides in the growing of tobacco. Even... eating meat was never an issue until grass-feeding animals (such as cows) ate corn and other grains that were almost always moldy as it sat in silos.

According to the research he documents (way back to the 1800s) it looks like they were on the right track to figuring our cancer (and how the diet is concerned) but organizations and entities (such as the AMA and others) were able to discredit the research that pointed to diet.

Going back to Rawzilla's point about the link between sugar, candida, and cancer -- things like grapes & dates are prone to molds and fungal growth -- thereby increasing chances of cancer growth -- that is, if you take the idea that cancer comes from fungus and germs seriously.

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Permalink Reply by Lightlover on June 26, 2009 at 11:33am

A rawfoodguru, I won't tell his name, told with camera's OFF, that cancer has several layers / causes:

a fungus, a calcification, something with parasites...I don't remember all, but fungus was definitely

one of the items involved.

Also "DCA" is interesting: it restores the mitochondria in de cancercells (cancercells don't have working

mitocondria), in order to give the cancercell the possibility for apoptosis, which is the suicide of the

cancercell...). VERY interesting, and just as cheap as the sodium bi carbonate from Simoncini.

Maybe we should stop quarreling about 80/10/10 versus the rest , and focus on these kind of things!!

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on June 26, 2009 at 11:43am

Dare I say this? ... But 80-10-10 could become central in this discussion too, because of the "controversial" candidiasis link.

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Permalink Reply by Mellifera on June 26, 2009 at 11:44am

fungus amond us in oncology?
Last year, tullio simoncini was giving his treatments with sodium bicarbonate in a private clinic for alternative 'medicine' in Bilthoven in the Netherlands.

October 2007, a woman with curable breast cancer, who was afraid of operation and chemo therapy, came into contact with simoncini and was treated by him. He injected large doses of baking soda into her breast.

On the fourth day of the therapy, the woman became very ill and was transported to a university hospital in Amsterdam, where she died the following day.

Notice it's people with zero scientific training that parrot this nonsense. I have many friends in cancer research, many of whom got into it because they lost a loved one. Some of them are very much against the FDA's practices. Cancer in undeniably complex and may have many many causes! But to suggest that sodium bicarbonate cures it and that we shouldn't fund research smacks of total ignorance of science and arrogance in the face of suffering. The world is now awash with all kinds of crap chemicals that can seep into our body no matter what kind of diet we eat...maybe we should be looking at those instead of spreading quackery.

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Permalink Reply by Lightlover on June 26, 2009 at 11:48am

One case isn't saying all Mellifera...Well, you know..

Most important of cause is the total lack of choice for people not wanting to support the cancerindustry,

when having cancer.

Freedom of health is a total illusion for cancerpatients.

ALL the rest (cures, methodes) is only secondly...

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Permalink Reply by Mellifera on June 26, 2009 at 11:58am

I've tested rat cancer for fungus myself. I have no ties to any industry. My pay leaves me at the income level that I qualify for food stamps. Maybe some cancer has ties to fungus, but certainly not all of it and if I could prove it, maybe I could get my research published and actually make some money. So if anyone here has any cancer they suspect may be caused by a fungus, they can send it to me and I can run the DNA tests. I've had plenty of stuff very critical of the FDA published before.

My mother had cancer and she had plenty of choices. She did not chose chemo and she survived, but it wasn't because of baking soda.

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Permalink Reply by Rawzilla on June 26, 2009 at 12:23pm

Thanks, Mellifera. Even though I believe the cancer-fungus link, I really appreciate other perspectives, especially from a scientist (you) who was not paid to support a specific outcome. We need more of you to share your truthful experiences. I am here to learn as well as offer my own observations, not to push my beliefs against the evidence and other people's experiences.

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Permalink Reply by Mellifera on June 26, 2009 at 4:46pm

It's possible that fungus has an important role. I myself am particularly concerned about mycotoxins. But cancers are a big class of illness and it's unlikely that all are caused by fungus. Besides that, fungus is not generally killed by oxygen, baking soda, etc. I just finished up a course on diagnosing and treating fungal illnesses of trees....really scary stuff and hard to kill. If if I am treating a fungus on a tree, I think about external stress, soil nutrients, removal of dead material, and colonies of beneficial organisms. I would think that treating humans with those things in mind would be the best way to go about it. I wish it were as simple as baking soda....for trees and people. With trees we need to ID the specific fungi because they are so diverse and each one has a different treatment. If fungus is found in a cancer, that would be the true approach. But this doctor has never published any data about DNA he has extracted, which makes me very suspicious.

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Permalink Reply by Mellifera on June 26, 2009 at 4:54pm

Also, mycotoxins, which are byproducts of fungus metabolism, have been found in some cancers. I think mycotoxins are a missing link in many health conditions. The 811 diet would be much lower in them than most because they exclude most nuts, seeds, dried powders...which tend to have higher levels. Manufacterers are supposed to monitor their levels, but given the contamination scandels these days...like the salmonella in the peanuts, I am very wary of them. It's one of the reasons I think people initially improve on the 811 diet, though they can be present in many things including fresh fruit and it's very possible to eat other diets that minimize them.

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Permalink Reply by Lightlover on June 26, 2009 at 12:51pm

With no choice I mean: no choice for a person to look for organized helping in his/her search

for a cancer solution, if I have well, so called 'alternative cancer strategies" are forbidden in the US..

ALL the tax-payer money is going to the regular pharma-coated cancerindustry.

Of cause every individual can seek/search on his/her own for remedies, this on top of

the suffering from the illness...

It could have been different...

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