80/10/10 vs Ph Miracle

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Permalink Reply by Lightlover on March 30, 2009 at 8:19am

Worst is combining fruit AND fat, not eating fruit OR fat...

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Permalink Reply by mboy on March 30, 2009 at 1:33pm

what is interesting is I havent done too well on fruits as yet, I have had a really bad diet up to this point though, Im from the west of Scotland and you can just imagine the kinds of things in our national diet .. so I believe that I would definetely have problems with blood sugar and microbes.. I am thinking that perhaps 80/10/10 is an ok thing for those who have already got to a better state of balance in there blood etc, then things can function properly and not have the acidic waist problem.. just my theory as to why some people respond better to more fruit and less aft and vice versa

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Permalink Reply by Susan Virginia on March 30, 2009 at 2:11pm

My theory is that people who live in cold climates, where the diet is traditionally animal & grain products, will never do well for long on high fruit.

If your people have lived there long enough to have evolved a longer nose, smaller chin, paler eyes, skin, & hair, then they've loved there long enough to have evolved to eating different types of foods as well.

I do believe that raw, or as little cooking/ processing as possible will be best. Since grains are not so digestable raw, and most veg are, animal & veg seems the right idea for pale skinned, colder climate peoples.

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Permalink Reply by s on March 31, 2009 at 6:20pm

I was thinking about this a lot, Susan, and trying to research what my ancestors in Europe might have eaten. Do you know of any sources that can tell me what they ate? I keep hitting dead ends.
s

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Permalink Reply by Ken on March 31, 2009 at 6:30pm

not all adaptations are necessarily good or irreversible (you can look into Fred Bisci's work for the vegan/cleansing perspective). I DO think peoples inheritance plays a large role, but doesn't necessarily dictate limits or parameters. That said, European ancestors (how far back?) probably ate fairly limited diets that supplied the basics like many cultures around the world.

I think the indigenous Swiss are listed in Weston Price's work? never really thought to look into it, even though I am Swiss, on a quick Google search:

In 1932 when Dr. Price visited the people of the Loetschental Valley in Switzerland, he found that no deaths had occurred from tuberculosis in the history of the valley. They had neither physician nor dentist, no policeman nor jail because they had no need for them.

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Permalink Reply by Ken on March 31, 2009 at 6:37pm

on further inspection,

looks like the bulk was home made rye bread and pastured raw dairy products.."extremely high in minerals" due to the soil/grasses acorrding to Price.

the soil made for unually good hay, pasturage, and good quality rye

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Permalink Reply by Ken on March 31, 2009 at 6:47pm

yes, not for me either, but people can probably do well on this (even though alot of it has to do with the enviroment/elements of health), just sharing info, I've actually never recommended price before...but seemed appropriate. depends on how one defines ancestors. for ancestors that were fairly healthy, you don't have to go too far back. For some/most..getting off the modern foods is enough.

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Permalink Reply by Ken on March 31, 2009 at 6:52pm

I think the most recent finding of 'ice-man' types, it was found remnants of fish matter, and some kind of museli of various seeds that don't even really exist anymore

Permalink Reply by s on April 2, 2009 at 4:33pm

Yummy. I imagine they also ate rotting carcasses when they could find them, but that doesn't mean I'm going to. Just looking for info, that's all. :) And there is a lot of info here now; thank you!
s

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Permalink Reply by Jasmine on April 2, 2009 at 3:53pm

Most epic sentence ever:

The production of ATP also has CO2 as a bi product which is acidic, so if your body can't get rid of those acidic wastes then those acids will be stored in your extra cellular matrix further altering your body chemistry causing your blood to become too alkaline to compensate for an ever increasing acidity in your tissue which affects the red cells ability to release oxygen around your body due to the Bohr effect and also begins altering the internal terrain further which can cause a deteriorating bacterial imbalance further lowering zeta potential of red blood cells which begin to stick together and further reduce oxygen delivery around your body which then affects the efficiency of cell function further including the process of burning of sugar into fuel and so it goes on.

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Permalink Reply by MOTH on March 30, 2009 at 8:57am

Have you ever read 80/10/10?? That book is loaded with both science and intuitive reasoning.

Personally, overt fat clogs my blood. It makes me sluggish. I like fast flowing clean blood and activity. So I go the low-fat, high fruit route.

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Permalink Reply by mboy on March 30, 2009 at 1:26pm

have you seen it clog your blood, how do you know this? sorry just interested :)

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