Girls! Raw food diet and low estrogen levels? Or any difference in Girly things? Also join my group RAW WOMEN

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie on February 14, 2008 at 2:52pm

What I was told by my doctor is simply that when we are eating the typical American diet that blood that accumulates is toxic and dirty and needs to be eliminated( thats why I have always heard them say women live longer then men because we detox every month)

BUT when we are eating a raw vegan diet we are very clean inside and our bodies can reuse that blood and not get rid of it

does that help?

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Permalink Reply by Raw by Default on February 14, 2008 at 3:58pm

Well, not really. Since I've been vegan for years and raw vegan for a few months and I still bleed a lot, there must be some piece of the puzzle that I'm missing...

Permalink Reply by Stephanie on February 14, 2008 at 5:58pm

Well my doctor said it may take about a year on a not only vegan but raw diet for this to occur

Permalink Reply by bueller on February 14, 2008 at 3:42pm

This is great information Stephanie. Thank you. Being the mad researcher that I am I will have a full pot this weekend on this topic on my blog as I have found so much good information. I found this interesting information: a low-fat vegan diet alleviates women's premenstrual symptoms by decreasing estrogen production. Which explains my low levels and that they may be in fact more normal than not. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0820/is_2000_August/ai_63902637

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Permalink Reply by Nohea on June 11, 2008 at 1:30pm

Wow, lot's of good info. When I was 15 i became vegetarian and shortly thereafter my period stopped...for 6 years. I went to doctors and they said that it was not from any lack of fat on my body, and they said it wasn't for diet...most those years I was vegan but not raw. I was worried because I wanted to make sure that I was still fertile, so I asked the universe for my period back, and it came back after 6 years. Since then it has been pretty irregular, except in the past year it became more stable. Then I began the 811 diet and I didn't get it for 2 months, became worried, began eating cooked, heavier foods, and it came back. It is interesting to read these articles, and think that maybe this whole time my body may have just been tuning in to my natural state. Hmmmm I kind of instinctively felt that when I was younger, but didn't have any solid research to back it up, just some hearsay.

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie on February 24, 2008 at 5:18pm

hey jenny!
whats up girl!
how are you?
im totally with you, i def feel the same way and have experienced the same!
I posted a few things on this discussion as well a while ago about my experiences on this topic and what i was taught by David Jubb when i first started going to him
pretty amazing stuff!

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Permalink Reply by Jenny on February 24, 2008 at 5:30pm

hey!! i just left a comment on your page!!!
xx

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Permalink Reply by John Coleman on June 11, 2008 at 2:44pm

Hi Jenny, I tried to get to the bottom of this issue a few years ago after reading a booklet by a couple of Natural Hygienists. Unfortunately the book made many claims that are not factual. For example there are many animals that menstruate, however this tends to be covert, but our close cousins chimpanzees menstruate visibly as Jane Goodhall has observed.

So menstruation is "natural", but I suspect that the unpleasant symptoms associated with it in SAD eaters are probably something to do with ill health.

Furthermore, the endometrium contains tiny spring like blood vessels that respond to changes in hormones by breaking. Thus there is biological mechanism to endice bleeding that is not present elsewhere in the body, so to call menstruation a hemorrhage is incorrect. Hemorrages are the result of physical damage to blood vessels, and do not serve any biological purpose.

As many female athletes know, overt menstruation is not a prerequiste for fertility.

Disturbances to menstruation are no doubt due to changes in bodyfat, which is where the hormones are made.

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Permalink Reply by John Coleman on June 11, 2008 at 4:36pm

I don't like to keep comparing to chimps, but as they are 99.4% genetically identical they make an obvious choice.

There is a citation here about their mentrual cycle http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Pan.... So we can be sure bleeding is natural, but I guess impossible to study PMS in other species, so as whether to know what about PMS is "natural".

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Permalink Reply by John Coleman on June 11, 2008 at 8:22pm

yeah, I'm just going to try that “male invite” posture LOL

Permalink Reply by John Coleman on June 11, 2008 at 8:27pm

but did you work out what .8 of a thrust is? is it half of a good bang? ROTFL

Permalink Reply by John Coleman on June 11, 2008 at 8:30pm

ROTFL again, I'm gonna wet myself laughing

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