Give it to me Raw

This may come as a shock to any of you who have chatted with me but I guess if this isn't a safe place to reach out then where is right? I'm bulimic and have been for quite some time. I know what I need to do, it is doing it that's the tough part. I want to round up any fellow sufferers of this addiction. I have a great plan but we need each other to get through it. I know we can do it. Write me back so we can beat this and help others triumph as well!

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Jeff, I couldn't reply to the above statement, about eating before excercising.

I, personally, like to exercise than eat. My body isn't worrying about digesting food (eating fruit digests so quickly, it's not a worry) and it allows me to focus more energy on exercising. After that, I drink my fluids, wait an hour or so and eat my meal.

I never work out to the point of absolute exhaustion. What I'm saying is that I always have enough "fuel" in me when I'm down so I can digest food.

Digesting takes up energy, if you eat then exercise, you are not properly digesting/utilizing your food and not able to focus enough energy on exercising

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The average normal person may binge, etc. They may starve for a day or two to lose weight to fit into a dress, they may over eat for a few days because they are stressed at work, they may fast because they ate something bad the other night..
But an eating disorder will binge sometimes 5 to 7 hours in a day, or longer, for weeks or months at a time, leaving them no room to be active in life, relationships, work, etc, an anorexia we will starve ourselves for months, eat little tiny tiny amounts, no fat, over work our bodies in the gym, constantly think about weight, fat, calories, and food, and how we can lose the next few pounds when we already weigh in at 90 or less.. do you see the DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN eating sweet fruit and carbs... and living life .. DO YOU SEE the mental chains that an ed is locked into? Yes eating raw is great, eating fruit is wonderful, but the disease stems much deeper, and questioning where it came from or why we have it, won't resolve anything and will avail us nothing. Taking action.. is the way to recovery.

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My binge eating is just that. It started when I was a bored and lonely kid with no friends to play with after school. I'd sit on the sofa and stuff my face while I watched TV. I'd go back and forth from sweets like fruit, cookies or fruit snacks to salty chips or crackers. I always did this in front of the TV. Nobody ever noticed because I was such a skinny kid. I'm sure a raw vegan or 811 diet could have helped because I was always sick and on antibiotics, most likely from eating SAD.
Regardless, I still binge the same way now no matter if I'm eating 811rv or just raw vegan. Just like Asafoetida I have never been able to purge very well which is a good thing.
It doesn't matter what I eat... The feelings I have send me to the fridge every time. It is possible to binge on sweet fruit. It's the most guilty binge of all because it's the most expensive!

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Oh, and I forgot to mention the food trance that happens upon bingeing. I don't know about anyone else but I become a zombie! I just roam back and forth from the fridge to the couch and back again.

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i think the body naturally wants to eat until it feels completely full and satisfied. the body recognizes fullness by the physical sensation of food in the stomach but also by the level of blood sugar being adequate. so if you still want to eat after your meal, perhaps there wasn't enough simple sugars in your food to tell your body that it has had enough. btw, the body can recognize the simple sugars right away, while other starches and fat do not trigger the body to recognize satiation because they take so long to digest. they must first be transformed into fat, then used when the body is out of sugar.
i have never had an ED, but it seems to me that they may be connected to the addictiveness of the foods (ie. opiates in grains, other chemicals in meat), in which your body intuitively tells you to get rid of the harmful substances. just like how drug addicts can feel the need to vomit after taking drugs. there is obviously a food connection here as well as the emotional one. your body is very wise, it will tell you what you need to do if you listen a little more to it!
i eat a LOT of fruit and have never felt better! i don't consider it binging at all because of the way it goes through the body and the way i feel afterwards. it creates no harmful by-products while supplying what the body needs.
i almost think most people on this planet could be considered to have an eating disorder - they just don't know what to put in their bodies. people purge in many different ways in order to control the food (drugs) they put in their bodies. some skip meals, some get drunk on the weekend and lose their lunches that way, and some force themselves to do it. it's intuitive.
i have to agree that if we just put into our system what are bodies are dying to have, we would find ourselves less and less in need to do these harmful things to ourselves.

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I really don't think that deserves any more answer, considering the place we are in here. Could you stop that please?

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I've never struggled with an eating disorder, but I just wish you all the best in your recovery. And if you need any more support or help in any way, I am here for you.

<3

xxx

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Me too. Hard to admit on a public forum. Being Raw/vegan keeps it at bay. Who throws up strawberries?

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Well, I have recovered from bulimia and other eating disorders after going through quite a lot in the teen years and through my 20's. I was anorexic for quite a while. I would starve myself and not even drink water and would exercise excessively after eating anything. I lost a lot of weight and people of course would tell me I was thin enough but it didnt matter what was said, I kept going...then I was diagnosed bulimic after changing patterns. I would purge. Sometimes I would chew food up and spit it out thinking that if it didn't hit the stomach it would be okay and having the taste in the mouth would satiate my desires for it. This went on for many years and then....I was pregnant and the doc said you must eat for your baby...ahh, that did it I could do it for the baby but not for myself. And then, after this I turned to overeating and a combo of bulimia..anorexia at times. It was crazy.

Then, I changed my lifestyle by becoming vegetarian. Many would say this is yet another 'eating disorder' but it isn't. I do it because I feel better and eat 85-90% raw. I would like to be 100% for health reasons but listen to my body and respect it as the temple it is now. I have dealt with many of the emotional and spiritual issues underlying the eating disorders..I still have 'things' to deal with in life no doubt. But now have learned to take each as it comes and it truly is as though I am peeling away the layers of an onion.

I have learned to honor my body and love this body. THe change in lifestyle changed my life in the most amazing ways and being free from the bulimia~anorexia~overeating is so freeing...


Sending you love...as you journey on this path.

~L

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i can see various points of the root causes of ED. I have been 100% raw for almost three weeks and then last night and today I had a lot of cooked food. I didn't eat as much compared to when I used to but it was still a lot of cooked food.
I ask myself, why? I was so on the path of being raw and then all of a sudden eating loads of cooked food felt so exciting to me. I live in a suburban/city and life around me seems artificial. I feel like I'm becoming dissociated from civilized world. I am doing as much research as I can by reading books on people who are in nature or are doing eco sustainable projects.

I attended a lecture by David Wolfe and he among others have expressed that all the diseases that we suffer as a species is caused by living away from nature. We live unaturally and no doctor, psychologist or any proffessional that treats any type of eating dissorder can attest to this in a complete sense. Binging, purging, abstaining from food is a sign that we are suffering from not being in nature and not being surrounded by life. Do some gardening or go on some nature walks or just surround yourself with life. I am taking steps to do this and I'm certain that this will help me get over my bad habit of binging. It is about the food, but its not about the food. Good luck.

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Being disconnected from nature, especially 'our natural self' I feel too is the source of our problems. There is a website and a program you may find interesting

After participation, reading the materials and simply MUCH time spent personally with nature healing by reconnecting with nature is where the answers lay I feel too...thanks for bringing this up.

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I just want to thank EVERYONE for their comments. I read them all and they are so helpful. Thank you thank you thank you. Keep it going. there is still so much to learn!

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