As you become more raw does it affect your ability to connect with non raw foodists

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Permalink Reply by Adam Nisula on August 1, 2008 at 9:44am

I've recently went back into full swing with raw and I'm doing very well but there are many obstacles to get over when it comes to standard food eaters.

I'm going on a camping trip this weekend with some friends from college and I'm sure, with me not drinking beer anymore, there's going to be some disconnect. I'm trying hard to still just be an old friend but I'm sure the whole experience will be strained.

They're all great people and I've known them for a long time so I'm sure they will be great about it.

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Permalink Reply by Ian on August 2, 2008 at 7:46am

It's only natural that the person's actions and words will become defensive, almost like the parasites the cooked food invites are taking over their mind to continue eating cooked food. It's a survival thing.

Very interesting analysis. I have not quite thought about it like this before.

Thank you for the "higher thinking" aspect of this one. I now have new analogies to create :-)

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Rebeka on August 2, 2008 at 7:16am

Thanks guys for responding. I have done mono mealing if you mean eating 1 type of food such as coconuts at one time. I remember eating three or five young thai coconuts in the course of six hours. That is a good point about the parasites in relation to cooked food eating and the body's defense mechanism. For years I had been sensitive to peoples' choices in lifestyle. I had the desire to see people taking better care of themselves. At times I felt sad to see or hear about someone smoking or drink heavily. After talking to some people, I realize now that they know what they're doing is unhealthy but they don't really care. I have given up caring about people who don't care about their own health.

I know this might be a long comment. I had battled some emotional and physical addictions to food. I met some people and our conversations were so toxic that I was driven to eat cooked food. I know it was my doing but what I discovered was that I myself needed to overcome this addiction to food so I distanced myself from situations that were toxic. I was 50% raw vegan on and off for the past two months just to see how I would feel. I had so many changes to overcome to become raw. I had morbid obesity, food addiction, emotional dependancy on food, physiological dependancy, compulsive eating, former omnivore and detox symptoms.

I am not putting the blame on anyone but I just think when you are first raw it's important to be in a supportive environment so you can flourish. I am somewhat shocked at times that there are people that have been raw for years but they lack the desire to go at it full force. To each it's own. Life is a circle so there is various sides to the situation.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Mueller on August 2, 2008 at 7:21am

i haven't read all the responses or even the question yet but for me it is both yes and no.

what I mean, is that becoming raw has allowed me to become more of my true self and has allowed me to connect both with myself and everyone around me better.

on the other hand, i feel much less of a connection to the the majority of the population. for instance, when I am in a health food store or raw restaurant I feel a certain energy present that i often feel is absent other times. maybe I am projecting some of my own thoughts onto the situation. maybe not....

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Permalink Reply by jason on August 2, 2008 at 7:36am

If there was raw island I think I would move there in the near future. I am becoming less and less connected with the everday man. I think when I'm around meateaters I am either defending myself or informing them and it is constant work and leaves me in a state of.... not peaceful.
When I am around raw people, which doesn't happen very frequently, I feel this excited but relaxed comfort and happiness to know I'm in the presence of an enlightened human who can relate and agrees that plants are good for humans. I am excited for the Raw Spirit Fest for sure...

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Permalink Reply by Erin on August 2, 2008 at 11:30am

I've never been surrounded by raw foodists, so I don't even know what that's like! When I first went raw, a couple of my friends were into it, too- for a little while. They both found "reasons" not to continue. So, here I am:)
I'm very used to feeling like the odd man out- not necessarily in a negative way. Because I've always been such a social free-agent, I've learned to look for ways to connect with almost anyone. You ultimately connect with who a person is, not what they do (or eat).
That being said, it would be nice to be around more raw foodies- I'm actually going to meet with some gals from GI2MR today, for the first time. I'm excited:)

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Permalink Reply by sunkist on August 2, 2008 at 3:31pm

CoolZB
Yes you are so right...I feel like I'm floating on a cloud and some people around me seem so negative or trapped in this haze. You are right that they are drugged with the foods from a SAD way of life, so at every opportunity I try & share what raw foods is all about so maybe they can break out of their drugged haze and be alive!!! :)

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Permalink Reply by Adam on August 2, 2008 at 12:59pm

When we feel separated we choose this. We desire something more. We have tasted the sweetness of life as it can be and are drawn to a more fulfilling life. Most of us on here have desires that are yet to be fulfilled. One of our most fundamental desires as humans is to belong to a community and to share what we love with our community. We want to be able to enjoy eating what we love to eat with others. I have chosen to withdraw from the world that I was once associated because I am working towards a future dream. A dream that is hard to live in the present and doesn't appear likely in the future without withdrawing from old relationships and forming new ones. Unfortunately people who value the same things that I do are hundreds if not thousands of miles a way and scattered so sparsely you might think that it was a dirty trick.

And when I say "I want a face to face living raw foods community" I'm not the only one. I believe that an actual raw foodist community would not separate these raw foodists from the world but would provide a base camp, a foundation, a stronghold and a huge boost in energy, conviction and health for them. Having this type of community is an important step in healing ourselves and providing for optimum health.

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Permalink Reply by Tawni on August 2, 2008 at 1:17pm

I really would love to have a raw foods community close to where I live. It was a challenge for me to communicate in the past, but not I am finding that it is easier and easier as time goes by. Actually, my family and a large majority of people who I share the information that I have with....over time they start wanting the energy and love emination that I have, so they start to ask questions, or say, "Hey, I really want to lose weight"...or, "My knees hurt..."...and these things lead me into helping them make better food choices because they are very oblivious to what they can do as far as their diet.

It takes a while to get there though...but anyone who has a communication problem should wait it out and stick to what they're doing. It will all fall into place. Living by example is a powerful thing though.

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Permalink Reply by Angelina on August 2, 2008 at 1:30pm

I'm going to say yes and no! Prior to raw (over 3 yrs ago) I was always the one that had to deal with the comments any time my friends and I went out to eat because I would get a salad or something very neutral i.e. steamed fish. Being mostly vegetarian and having a whole host of food allergies, I would bend a bit to at least be able to go out with my friends ~ and 9 times out of 10 would suffer the effects the next day! Well, now having more options as far as raw restaurants or even organic vegan restaurants with some raw options (Counter is a perfect example) I feel that its time for me to put myself first! hell, I've been putting others first for years...so if I want to eat out, obviously my first choice is going to be a raw restaurant; so I try to get my non - raw friends to experiment!! Now with that being said, if I had a choice of meeting up with a non raw friend at a regular place or a raw friend at a raw place - well the choice is pretty clear...And for me its not a thing about feeling non connected to my non raw friends, I mean, they're still my friends even if I disagree with the way they eat and I know at the end of the day they'll be the ones standing by me but it is easier to have friends that you have health choices/raw lifestyle in common with.

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Permalink Reply by sunkist on August 2, 2008 at 3:28pm

After 6 years on raw foods, I can't stand to be around people who smoke or eat fast food (nothing personal, but it's an odor thing).

I have a hard time being around people who drink alot of alcohol..I don't mean the occasional glass of wine, etc...But I mean anyone who drinks like hard liquor...it just makes me feel physically sick (it's not a judgment on them as a person)

I feel when I can be with other people who also eat raw foods, I can totally relax..like these are my people...lol

I would love to live on a tropical island (or a place in the mediterranean) with nothing but raw food eating peeps...that would be my paradise!!!

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Permalink Reply by Perkunas on August 2, 2008 at 4:01pm

Hummm
there is no problem as long I am aware that we all are in the same boat...I would not eat the same that they eat...but considering than I did eat that myself in the past and even my mind works clearer and my vibration expand smoother/.....
I am not better than anybody...I am wilder of crazier sometimes but I just preffer to think I am better myslef not in comparision with the rest but only me...socialization is tricky...I preffer to eat the inside of the banana it migh be funnier that way while conecting with people....;-)

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