The China Study...wow.

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Permalink Reply by Kendra on July 3, 2008 at 10:57am

Jason - you are so sweet! :)

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Permalink Reply by nycgrrl on July 12, 2008 at 9:51am

I totally agreea bout the "great big advertisement"...you're absolutely right. So depressing to think that everything we've learned is a lie!! And then you hear about that teacher getting fired for teaching about veganism, when all over the classroom are posters with exhortations to "drink you milk"...sigh....

I can only hope that the power of a few individuals preaching the good will overcome the many still hanging onto the bad...the meat, the milk, the cheese.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Mueller on July 12, 2008 at 12:42pm

dude, on page 243 of the chapter 'how to eat' there is a table that says 'eat all you want (while getting tons of variety)'

included in this table are sections for fruits, flowers, stems and leaves, roots, legumes, mushrooms, nuts and whole grains.

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Permalink Reply by Lori Shields on September 21, 2008 at 10:13pm

If you find the book a slow read, you can buy it from Amazon on cd. I have been listening to it and it's fascinating. My name is Lori and I'm new around here. Nice to meet you.

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Permalink Reply by ॐ omshanti ॐ on September 21, 2008 at 10:28pm

I read this book right before my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. She went vegan straight away. Fortunately her cancer was small and she didn't need chemo, but the changes she made have positively affected her rheumatoid arthritis and other health issues.

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Permalink Reply by AwesomeUniverse!!! on October 2, 2008 at 4:48am

This is so great to hear Omshanti. I am a big "fan" of arthritis success stories due to eating raw. How "raw" is your mom would you say and how much improvement did she have if you could put a number on it?

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Permalink Reply by XanderFrancisH on September 22, 2008 at 12:13am

Honestly though, aren't his conclusions a huge logical fallacy due to the fact that correlation does not imply causation. I think he has the best intentions, don't get me wrong. I just find it misleading to make all these claims based from correlational studies. If you go by those standards, studying the long lived Okinawans for example, one would conclude that we should all eat animal products, grains and soy.

Like wouldn't people who ate more protein also probably have lived in polluted cities, and drank, smoke, eaten sweets,had more stress and so on... I admit I haven't read the book so correct me if I'm wrong. I plan to check it out soon. I just don't get how everyone and their mother seems argue that this book shows that certain foods are bad based on correlations.

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Permalink Reply by VOID on September 22, 2008 at 7:53am

Xander,

Its not just about correllation, he also talks about studies they did before the china study. For example, they tested to see which proteins triggered the growth of tumours when exposed to carcinogens like dioxin and alfatoxin, and accounted for amount of protein consumed. So for example what effect 5% of total calories coming from casein in dairy, then 6% then 7..10, 1, 12, 14, 20 etc etc etc. They noted really interesting things like with every increase by %, tumour growth would go up alot. after 10%, every % increase caused an exponential increase in tumour growth. When casein was removed from the diet tumour growth slowed down to negligible amounts. Then they tested waiting periods, like if they withold those foods for so many months then reintroduce them, will growth start immediately.

I thought it was really interesting personally, and I would recommend it to anyone to read.

Take care

Adam x

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Permalink Reply by cricketine on September 22, 2008 at 1:03am

That book really made an impression on me and on my family ( I tell them about everything I read). I would recommend EVERYONE to read it!

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Permalink Reply by Amber on September 22, 2008 at 9:49am

Yeah, when I first read this book about a year ago it got me excited because all the information was so well researched and documented over such a long period of time. I was really excited that the main stream would latch on to this information and we would finally see some kind of REAL information the the world could use. But of course it did not, or at leaste has yet to have that effect on the mainstream media. But, in any case the information is very valueable and I think it willl make help make the case for what we are all trying to spread here.

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Permalink Reply by Kasey on September 22, 2008 at 10:55am

If you don't want to read it, let me sum it up for you.

Eating a whole food, plant based diet is good.

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Permalink Reply by Sarah on September 22, 2008 at 12:47pm

wow i just got that book from my friends mom and im excited to read it...she thought they went a little overboard with all the facts (shes a english lit professor) but im definitely curious now.

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