People getting sick on raw food? -Link-, we should write in to the paper ;);)...

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Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 2:51pm

it's just fun!

Permalink Reply by Cinnamon Girl on June 21, 2008 at 7:53am

i'm sorry that animals are suffering and are killed too debbie.
but i can't be healthy & vegan.
i would like to have a big yard where i could keep goats and chickens!

Permalink Reply by Stephen on June 21, 2008 at 8:03am

People say many things about there diet and often they aren't as raw as the say. i'm not suggesting that they didn't live a raw vegan lifestyle, but sometimes there's other factors involved. i can't give an answer either unfortunately only my opinion. and if it is true then it will no doubt be investigated. #what i would say is does it work for you or anyone you know, i know it works for me. Plus how many people full into bad health on diary compared to raw vegan food??? For me its a no brainer and I've never felt better.

Stephen

Permalink Reply by Zoe on June 21, 2008 at 8:47am

I keep hearing this on this forum 'all raw gurus who are out there eating bagels and pizza." Who are these people? Why do you say they are not doing what they say they are? Have you seen them eating junk food? Just wondering what the deal is with this type of comment that I see a lot on gi2mr.

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 9:13am

Too right Buddhababy we have both been there - hanging out with those people who tell different stories publically and at the end of attack if we spill the beans on them. Perhaps we simply don't enjoy shaming them and feel compassion fror people who simply are too fearful to be open so we instinctivley protect them the way we would our own children. One of the people attacking me on this very forum started eating steak because she literally collapsed after being a raw vegan for a while - now she is houndng me about milk and eggs. I still can't bring myself to name her even though she has made some horrible accusations against me.
What are these people trying to achieve?

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 9:16am

but yes there are some people who are very happy to be honest where it hasn't worked out the way they hoped. Again i can name names but i want to clear things with them and i think i will save it for this compilation i am getting together.

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 9:23am

A well known raw foodist woman in the uk seriously developmentally retarded her child on a raw vegan diet. The child is now on a cooked vegetarian diet. She covered the whole story up leaving people like me to struggle in ingnorance til i met Tish Clifford.I will probably never feel like naming her because i am actually very fond of her even though she is not someone in my life. It's her desire for success that made her do this and i can only feel for her. By the way Tish Clifford, Shazzie and Kate Magic Wood are all devoted to their children's welfare and i have serious admiration for them - and of course they are all attacked, as i am.
lol

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 1:13pm

the point is people are being mislead and it's that's unfair
i don't really care what you think of me
i don't want blame people, they have thier own reasons that's not the point
i just want people to understand that all is not as it seems in the raw food movement
then if they run into difficulties it will be easier for them to make sense of it and get things sorted out for themselves
and realise there are not as many successful 100%raw vegans as they may have been led to believe......
especially after people have been doing it 1, 2 or 3 years

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 1:04pm

Shazzie is prioritising her child's health and taking whatever steps she needs to
she adapts to circumstances and is very honest about it
whenever she has seen she needs to change what she gives Evie she does it. I very much admire her
She is bringing out a book soon which tells their whole story so i'll leave it to her to tell - i don't really want to give a second hand version

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 2:54pm

and Shazzie is feeding her child healthily whilst sticking by her principles
she chose not to deny reality and instead has worked hard to find a way of doing things that sticks to her ideals and WORKS
what a lady!
anyway i hope her book is out soon
can't wait to read it

Permalink Reply by Karl Greaves on June 21, 2008 at 1:18pm

Since when has ethics been your high point

Permalink Reply by Holly Paige on June 21, 2008 at 1:05pm

so other mothers would be aware of possible pitfalls and children could be saved from damage from the malnurtion that raw veganism often causes them
some people in the raw vegan movement cover it up and it's not fair on the children

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