On the fence.....help me decide what to do...80% raw or 99%
EDITED Tuesday, June 17th: so...wow. What a mega thread this has turned into--lots of passion and intelligence and information. Thank you everyone who contributed!!! I wanted to post about my "conclusion" if you will, in case anyone is interested. I am home now from traveling, and I suspect it was traveling, being away from my blender, my frozen bananas etc that made me introduce that bit of cooked foods to begin with. And once I did that, I searched for 'justification" that adding a bit of cooked foods was okay, wasn't going to kill me, etc etc. Not that I've ultimately decided that a bit of quinoa or steamed asparagus or what have you is bad. It's just that I don't think it would have come up had I not been traveling.
So.
Now that I am home, I am back in my raw groove. I SO SO SO SO SO missed my green smoothies I can't tell you. I am looking forward to my weekly home delivery of organic produce tomorrow, and will be making a lovely, huge salad today of greens, walnuts, tomatoes, cukes and (horrors!) a bit of avo....
I am going to follow the advice of many people on this thread and listen to my body. Its voice is faint after many years of cooked food, but I will strain to hear.
Thank you everyone for such a thought-provoking discussion.
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Hi
I was 99% raw for about 2 months ( I won't say 100% as I did eat some cacao and agave) and I felt great. Energy was great. Then I realized how much fat I was consuming as a % of my diet and I kind of freaked--those avos and nuts add up!! then I read some research about raw diets, and how they're not considered ideal--i know, i know,it's not what you read, it's what you FEEL, but I am a science-y gal, so....anyway..did i gain weight on raw? No. But i got freaked about the high fat thing regardless.
Then my DH wanted me to not be so "extreme". He supports a healthy lifestyle, and actually eats like 75% raw most days, but he feels that small amounts of brown rice, quinoa, beans etc will help me stick with eating better long term. He knows me (correctly) to be a bit obsessive about things, and he doesn't want me to burn out on raw foods, especially because he loves having all the produce around the house. So paradoxically, his desire for me to eat some cooked foods is because he wants me to "stay the course" of eating healthfully forthe long term,and he thinks a bit of cooked will help.
I can't say I feel better eating the quinoa and rice and beans. BUT. I can't say I feel worse either. My digestive system is pretty "tough" and doesn't really get bothered by much.
this week, we were away from home, so eating the way I normally would like on raw (green smoothies every morning, tons of fruit, etc) wasn't possible, so I used this week as an experiment to eat a bit of cooked vegan foods.
I return home tomorrow and am flummoxed as to what to do with my diet, and would love advice (non-dogmatic please) from people who've BTDT. I do feel that there's the sense that anything less than 100% is failure, or that one should regardless be striving towards 100% all the time. I am one of those people who likes to be able to label herself--I am a raw vegan, I am a runner, i am a fill-in-the-blank. Silly, right?
I should just live in the present moment. do what feels right, and not worry about 'labels.'
So.
Now that I am home, I am back in my raw groove. I SO SO SO SO SO missed my green smoothies I can't tell you. I am looking forward to my weekly home delivery of organic produce tomorrow, and will be making a lovely, huge salad today of greens, walnuts, tomatoes, cukes and (horrors!) a bit of avo....
I am going to follow the advice of many people on this thread and listen to my body. Its voice is faint after many years of cooked food, but I will strain to hear.
Thank you everyone for such a thought-provoking discussion.
______________________________________________________________
Hi
I was 99% raw for about 2 months ( I won't say 100% as I did eat some cacao and agave) and I felt great. Energy was great. Then I realized how much fat I was consuming as a % of my diet and I kind of freaked--those avos and nuts add up!! then I read some research about raw diets, and how they're not considered ideal--i know, i know,it's not what you read, it's what you FEEL, but I am a science-y gal, so....anyway..did i gain weight on raw? No. But i got freaked about the high fat thing regardless.
Then my DH wanted me to not be so "extreme". He supports a healthy lifestyle, and actually eats like 75% raw most days, but he feels that small amounts of brown rice, quinoa, beans etc will help me stick with eating better long term. He knows me (correctly) to be a bit obsessive about things, and he doesn't want me to burn out on raw foods, especially because he loves having all the produce around the house. So paradoxically, his desire for me to eat some cooked foods is because he wants me to "stay the course" of eating healthfully forthe long term,and he thinks a bit of cooked will help.
I can't say I feel better eating the quinoa and rice and beans. BUT. I can't say I feel worse either. My digestive system is pretty "tough" and doesn't really get bothered by much.
this week, we were away from home, so eating the way I normally would like on raw (green smoothies every morning, tons of fruit, etc) wasn't possible, so I used this week as an experiment to eat a bit of cooked vegan foods.
I return home tomorrow and am flummoxed as to what to do with my diet, and would love advice (non-dogmatic please) from people who've BTDT. I do feel that there's the sense that anything less than 100% is failure, or that one should regardless be striving towards 100% all the time. I am one of those people who likes to be able to label herself--I am a raw vegan, I am a runner, i am a fill-in-the-blank. Silly, right?
I should just live in the present moment. do what feels right, and not worry about 'labels.'
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Permalink Reply by Ola on -
i'm not sure what to suggest to you since i'm no expert here... all i can say is that in the past few weeks i had felt the worst after eating a raw pizza then whenever i had some cooked food. i'm still 'in transition' (to eating more and more raw... will see how many % i'll score ;) and i think that for me it's better to have some sprouted bread as a side to my salad than having a complex raw dish.
i tell ya, the day after i had that pizza i had the worst digestion nightmares ever! including acid reflux which i hadn't had in about... 2 years?
so i think that for me it's really about how complex the food is and some gourmet raw dishes are just worse (or feel worse) for my body than simple, unprocessed cooked foods (i'm not talking here about french fries/chips or pasta :) at the moment
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Permalink Reply by nycgrrl on -
sounds cool--anyone have a link? i find myself eating very simple meals.
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Permalink Reply by FiddleMama on -
The Raw Food Detox Diet
This isn't the link to the exact article but if you look through her blog you'll see her general philosophy. I really like her approach. She recommends shedding the labels.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Carlton on -
ah, speaking clinically...
I don't need a microscope to tell me that natural food, eaten naturally is good for me. Thanks for discounting everyone else on this forum because you are a scientist and only you know the real truth.
One thing I know about science for sure. Every few years science tells us they were wrong about something they had previously told us was true and now they have discovered that the opposite is true.
Doctors used to endorse cigarettes!
Lovebows,
Chris
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Permalink Reply by John Coleman on -
When where nutrition and medicine science? Certainly these fields make use of scientific research, but they are social sciences.
I don't think medicine can be explained in any rational way - exactly how does taking toxins make us "better", where is the science? Nutrition is also bogus, with its claims that we can understand diet by examining at the chemical level.
But you are right, all scientific facts are contingencies that may be changed later. While the scientists try to figure out what we should all eat, I'll settle for eating what makes me feel healthy - raw foods!
Live blood analysis is completely unproven.
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Permalink Reply by John Coleman on
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quantum energies? please explain! :)
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Permalink Reply by Chris Carlton on
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ah...
Pete: Exactly, how does eating cooked food keep our cells clean?
Maybe you are right and I should incorporate some cooked food into my diet, all this raw natural food is making my cells dirty and not giving my DNA the best chance.
What was I thinking? - Thanks Pete!
Lovebows,
Chris
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