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Permalink Reply by Charles on March 8, 2008 at 5:58pm

I plan on visiting an organic bee farm sometime soon to see how the honey is extracted. Then I'll be able to sleep better at night.

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Permalink Reply by april on March 8, 2008 at 6:04pm

I read an article some time ago about a bee farm about an hour up north from la run by these old hippies..it was really cool, they had names for the bees and everything was completely humane. I need to find that link...

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Permalink Reply by Ellen Atkin on March 8, 2008 at 6:30pm

Oh gaud, I just spent 10 minutes writing a great comment here and lost it when i tried to put a link in....geeezes, drat.

anyway, the partakers of snobbism, elitism, false pride, delusional thinking who feel entitled to act superior because of a diet are just weak people. People will jump at any opportunity to make themselves look better than others. the weak ones anyway, the fraudulent ones also, the bogus hucksters, the snake oil salesmen.

And guess what? ever felt that way about some current raw food gurus. I have. think twice about what they are selling if you even have a hint of it. It is so bad that is is almost a requirement in the movement. I think it is the worse aspect of it really. and i am working to bust it up.

I feel that sites like these also bust it open. I mean these old timer dogma preaching raw fooders are dead in the water here. With all this free information and interaction based on REAL experience. the info here is ten times more valuable (in many cases) that some self appointed leader. - I love to make grand sweeping generalizations to make a point. Of course there are many dedicated researcher's but even them you have to understand come from a personal bias or belief system.

I am making my next blog post on the very subject. check it out -- here we go, ironic chuckle, buy my stuff!!! -- Raw Traveling. right now i am selling astro reports and looking some raw charities to donate part of the profits too. It's all a marketing ploy. I don't kid myself about that, but it does work out to win win and is fun.

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Permalink Reply by Joy on March 8, 2008 at 6:45pm

What bugs me is going into Community Market, my local health store today, and they have added another section to the raw area, but the stuff is like $32 for this $20 for that. I have heard whole foods, called overpriced foods before. Well I went to the bulk section of this store, and grabbed buckwheat, Adzuki beans (which look like red mung to me?), pumpkin seeds, and garbanzo beans, my purchase was $7, a small but for the size heavy bag. I really do think it is great to be able to sprout and make my own foods, cause raw for me is about health, and not supporting commercialism. I like to grow stuff to eat and eat edible weeds, and flowers. It would be nice if the raw food was even processed properly. I bought crackers before, that were soaked and dehydrated, but they had no sprouts growing out of the hard dry looking whole seeds, grains, etc, probably enzyme enhibitor activated, over salted stuff. I really do not want to spend my money on their profit and not my own health profit. Commercialistic elitist snobbery has to be replaced with raw food awareness, and the norm should be basic reasonably priced, fresh organic produce grown on fertile soil, not shelves of overpriced or preserved for shelf life garbage. Who wants a jar of chopped up vegetables, for $7, like they are thinking is special in most stores, now.

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Permalink Reply by april on March 8, 2008 at 7:05pm

yeah seriously. I've seen raw ice cream go for as much as $10 for 8oz!
I understand that organic ingredients can be pricey, but if you're a business and you're doing it in builk..come on now..that's just getting greedy!
I want to start selling stuff, but at prices that people can actually afford..none of this $7.99 a slice bullshit

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Permalink Reply by Francis on March 9, 2008 at 12:03am

Earth Cafe has amazing desserts. Was it Candy, the owner of Earth Cafe, or just someone representing them?

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Permalink Reply by april on March 9, 2008 at 12:18am

just some lady representing them..their desserts are good, but overpriced for being such simple dishes.

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Permalink Reply by Gavin on March 9, 2008 at 1:14am

okay so i definitely don't support elitist attitudes... for sure. i'm still constantly having thoughts running through my head comparing this person and that... looking at someones basket and going "ohhhh.... they're buying sooyyy milllk..." haha like it so matters right? these are my honest thoughts that i truly dismiss immediately because whatever right? bless everyone and everything in this universe of relative experience. we're all on the path in some way. and there's no way earth balance uses truly raw cashews... except i ate some of their pies and thought they were pretty bomb. but i see it as more junk food "ish"

and i've also listened to a number of elitists bad mouth other people and companies... it's best just to try and stay positive. even the way we speak. speaking in negative tones isn't always the healthiest thing to do either. i think we could all do with better intentions on our choices of words.


another whole foods nick name "whole paycheck"

i personally believe in supporting certain companies even if they are expensive. i really just end up buying less of certain things and looking for better quality sources.... like cacao butter. i found a source online for raw unrefined butter and it's like 11 bucks a LB!! one of my fav companies is in a store for 34 dollars for only 14oz. but yknow i pretty much still spend all my money on my food and my health and i love it anyway.

as soon as the trend gets bigger and bigger then it'll get better price wise. for some of the best quality at bulk go to mountainroseherbs.com GREAT COMPANY!

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Permalink Reply by april on March 9, 2008 at 1:37am

$11 a lb. ?!?! insanity...

haha, yeah...I could've been a bitch and said something about their use of "raw" cashews...but i'm not petty..so eeh.

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Permalink Reply by april on March 9, 2008 at 12:44pm

yes...not to stereotype, but ever since moving out to LA, i've def. noticed a "shift" personality wise in people.
hm, so the people working at euphoria are laggin it to eh?

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Permalink Reply by rawgoddess on March 9, 2008 at 2:48am

I have come across the raw 'holier than thou' attitude myself, and it is NOT typical of most raw foodies, in my experience at least. Most of the coaches, gurus, promoters etc I have had contact with have been nothing but genuine, kind folks. There will be bad apples in any bunch I suppose, whether it is a food lifestyle, or whatever. Just be the best person YOU can be and like you said, karma caches up to the aholes in the world.

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Permalink Reply by skizzy the wonder lizard on March 9, 2008 at 4:00am

i have been overrun with snobby, self-righteous vegans at several points in my life (one of many reasons why i'm not vegan), but the raw community seems to be more easygoing in general.

it's actually a topic that interests me. i don't know if it's because the "raw" label is less about morals than veganism, or perhaps it's that you can't be 99% vegan but a 99% raw foodist is pretty dedicated, or that raw food calms one's ego, or just that i happen to know a bunch of asshole vegans and chill raw foodists.

whatever it is, i'd never join a just-vegan community but i always feel welcome as a non-vegan in raw communities.

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