Give it to me Raw

sanjay_sahani

ALL LIFE EXISTS THROUGH SEX, ALL LIFE GROWS OUT OF IT.

Nothing is wrong in pure simple sex.
It is natural.

There is no need to hide it behind the beautiful word love. There is no need to create a cloud of romance around it.

Ninety-nine percent know sex only as a relief; they don't know its orgasmic quality.

Even if they think they are having an orgasm, it is not orgasm - it is just genital relief.

Orgasm has nothing to do with genitals as such. Genitals are involved in it, but orgasm is total - from the head to the toes, it is all over you.

What is orgasm?

Orgasm is a state where your body is no longer felt as matter; it vibrates like energy, electricity.

It vibrates so deeply, from the very foundation, that you completely forget that it is a material thing. It becomes an electric phenomenon.

Now physicists say that there is no matter, that all matter is only appearance; deep down, that which exists is electricity, not matter.

In orgasm, you come to this deepest layer of your body where matter no longer exists, just energy waves; you become a dancing energy, vibrating. There are no longer any boundaries to you - pulsating, but no longer substantial. And your beloved also pulsates.

Now, sexual orgasm needs time - the longer, the better; because then it will go deeper into your being, into your mind, into your soul.

Then it will spread from the toe to the head . . . every fiber of your being will be throbbing with it. Your whole body will become an orchestra and it will come to a crescendo.

But if you are in a hurry the orgasm becomes just an ejaculation, it is no more an orgasm. It is local and very tiny, almost meaningless. In fact you will feel tired, frustrated, depressed after it, because the energy is lost and it has not given you a bath, so it was just meaningless.

You remain the old - a little more tired, of course, with less energy of course, but you remain the same. It has not been a cleansing process, it has not thrilled you from corner to corner, from end to end.

Man always likes to enter the woman immediately.

He is not interested in foreplay because his positive pole is always ready. And women are always reluctant to enter into the sex act immediately, without any foreplay, because their negative pole is not ready. . . .

And man thinks the sex act is simple. Why waste time? Enter the woman immediately - and he is finished within minutes. But the woman was not a part, she was not aroused. . . .

When the woman remains cold, the man's orgasmic experience remains local, genital.

It does not reach to his soul, it does not reach to his whole body. All his cells are not thrilled, are not in a dance. It is poor, very poor.

It is a release, a relief, but not an orgasmic experience.

Make love only when there is tremendous desire and passion, otherwise simply say, "Excuse me, it is not there, so what is the point?"

Pretending is not good.

And if you stop pretending, you will find that your depth of love-making has increased very much.

Premature ejaculation is really not a sexual problem at all; it is more a psychological problem.

Physiologically there is nothing wrong but psychologically you are in a hurry, that very hurry creates premature ejaculation.

Why has man so many ways in relating - heterosexual, bisexual, one-to-one or in a group?

Man has freedom to choose.

And this choice can make you pathological or this choice can make you a Buddha.

Now it depends on you, how you use your freedom.

Sex has been called the original sin - it is neither original nor sin.

Up to now societies have been so much against sex - religions and churches against it - that they have created a very very unconscious hatred.

You may not be aware of it consciously, you may not see it anywhere in your mind so that you can detect it.

It has gone to the very roots of the body, to the gut level, because it has been centuries that people have been taught to be against sex.

That hatred has to be dropped, that hate and condemnation has to be dropped, and that can only be dropped if you start learning a reverence for sex.

We suppress movements. Particularly, all over the world, we suppress all movements, all shaking for women.

They remain just like dead bodies.

You are doing something to them; they are not doing anything to you. They are just passive partners.

Why is this happening? Why all over the world do men suppress women in such a way?

There is fear - because once a woman's body becomes possessed, it is very difficult for a man to satisfy her; because a woman can have chain orgasms; a man cannot have.

Any woman can have at least three orgasms in a chain, but man can have only one. And with a man's orgasm the woman is aroused and is ready for further orgasms.

Then it is difficult. Then how to manage it!

She needs another man immediately, and group sex is a taboo.

All over the world we have created monogamous societies. We seem to feel that it is better to suppress the woman.

So, really, 80% to 90% of women never know what orgasm is.

They can give birth to children; that is another thing. They can satisfy the man; that is also another thing. But they themselves are never satisfied.

So if you see such bitterness in women all over the world - sadness, bitterness, frustration - it is natural.

Their basic need is not fulfilled.

Because of three basic elements in sex, you come to a blissful moment.

Those three are, firstly, timelessness: you transcend time completely. There is no time. You forget time completely; time ceases for you. Not that time ceases: it ceases for you; you are not in it.

Secondly, in sex, for the first time you lose your ego; you become egoless. You are not, nor is there the other. You and your beloved are both lost into something else.

And thirdly, in sex you are natural for the first time. You are a part of nature - a part of trees, a part of the animals, a part of the stars - a part! You are immersed into something - the Cosmos, the Tao.

You cannot even swim in it; you are not. You are just floating - being taken by the current.

These three things give you ecstasy.

The future will have a totally different vision of sex.

It will be more fun, more joy; more friendship, more a play than a serious affair as it has

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mediation, hate double standards in life, to understand what life is, these so called masters have confused our human societies

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Hey Pete, I can´t remember if we´ve met, but I know Karen :) Where you in Sedona last time?
Why don´t you help me start a thread about raw food=better sex?
Let´s give this forum some sexy back!!!!!!!
Sounds funny!
I´m just not an expert with the details of the forum and I´ve never started a thread in my life :)
In Spain we love sex and we don´t have mental problems about it :)
It´s the spark of life! Actually, I´ve been thinking about this free energy invention, some kind of device that would make your computer work from the energy of 2 people making love, the higher the energy, more energy for the washing machine and the light bulbs, that way people would HAVE to make love at least once a day, and real good, so their appliances work :)

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It only works when 2 human beings become 1 :)

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Giselle,
Ready to start your discussion? Click on the "green plus sign, Start A New Discussion" link at the top of this page. The rest you know how to do (double entendre intended).

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Thanks Uti :)
I´m getting dressed to go to the hairstylist!
In 3 hours the TV is here!!!
I catch up with you later tonight!!!
Thanks :)
Thanks :)
I wanna say I love and respect all men in the Universe.
I didn´t wanna disrespect anyone who is not 100% rawvegan.
I just want the highest quality possible genetics to create the next generation to heal the planet :)

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Nettle,
I don't know anything about the Amazons. What about the goddess religions of Europe and the Middle East and the Native American Matriarchal lineage societies? You have to wonder what it was like for them before they were wiped out, brutalized, suppressed, or subsumed by Judeo-Christian patriarchal societies; men who would in no way bend their knee to a woman and found them useful only for domestic labor, spreading their seed and meeting their animal nature sexual needs. I'm speaking in very general terms, there have exceptions when individual men and women of higher consciousness came together and risked being branded iconoclasts by their societies.

Another thing that I've never heard explained is how can East Indian religions worship Kali and speak of the Divine Mother while treating women as less than equals?

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If you believe in past lives and reincarnation, as I do, then it's a bit more difficult to play the "blame game" when it comes to who is repressing who. I think we all need to leave room for the possibility that it may have been YOU or ME that, at one time, was one of these evil men passing down these evil laws.

I could just imagine what it was the men may have been feeling... in one moment, they're being told that sexual arousal for any purpose other than procreation was wrong, and the next thing they know, some super sexy chick walks by and BAM, they're going to hell! When you throw in the idea that we've all been taught to remove ourselves from temptation, it certainly also would make sense to remove the temptation... aka women.

Then take a look at the women of history as well, cause it isn't always the man. When jealousy takes over, and we've all felt it at one time or another, it can show itself in some very ugly ways. Somebody's husband checks out another woman, and POOF! She's a bitch! Not the wife, but the other woman... and not in the man's eyes, but in the woman's. Maybe that woman needed someone to blame, and placing it on her husband, who she loved, wasn't acceptable, so blame the other woman. Her feminine ways were evil. The blame game takes on a whole new light.

Once you take that position, that we may all have been responsible for what has occurred in the past, it then becomes all of our responsibility to fix it today. We can all choose to pass blame, but isn't that what got us here in the first place?

I feel that once we are able to take responsibility for our own actions, move past them, and try to make a difference from here forward, it's perfectly acceptable to appreciate the writings, and amazing understandings, of someone we may have at one time believed to be the enemy.

Thank you again, Sanjay, for stepping outside of what we've all been taught and remembering what it is to not only be a "man" or a "woman," but to be human.

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I guess it's all about interpretation. I did not interpret anything Sanjay said as meaning I must "snooze and wait for my next life to have fun and to be happy." My only point was that blaming today's men for the injustices of the past is simply unfair, because they may not have been the same men... and we may not have been the same women. Blame doesn't work, no matter what spin we put on it.

As far as the 80-90% of woman comment... maybe it's true, maybe it's just one person's opinion, but, again, I don't think it's necessary to tear apart the entire thing over one line that you may, or may not agree with.

Personally, I have experienced many orgasm's in my life, both alone and with partners. I have experienced multiple orgasms and have had my share of experienced partners. However, I have only experience the kind of orgasm that Sanjay was referring to, with my energy instead of just my body, only once in my life so far. I guess that's why this made so much sense to me, because I understood what he meant, and that there are different kinds of orgasm.

Also, I think it should be understood that just because Western culture has begun to allow women to express their sexuality (not always accepted, but better than some), doesn't meant that it is this way in all parts of the world. There are still many cultures out there that are suppressing a woman's sexuality, and even a man's. So, maybe here in Western society more women have experienced physical orgasm, maybe woman of the world as a whole have not.

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I disagree with this post almost entirely.

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I am confused about the part where you say a women can have multiple orgasms and may need more then one partner to experience a second orgasm? From my experience they pass over me like a wave, one after the other, maybe 5 in a row. And the guy can feel the contractions, as well. If you mean that a man after he ejaculates my not be able to please a woman sexually, I think usually after he ejaculates the first time, he lasts longer the next, and the next time, and it does not always take that long to get an errection after the first time. Maybe I've just been with men that can go all night? Although, I do think it is fine to have more then one partner in bed or to change partners. I agree that Christian's set taboos and that it is sad (or SAD). When I was young in the 70's, there was a women's sexual revolution happening where women met in groups, and learned how to masterbate each looking in a mirror to find their cliterous and masterbating together. I was about 10-15 years younger then these women, did not attend a group, but learned a lot from them talking about their experiences. When aids came along much of this free sex stuff was shoved into the closet or put on the shelf, and the Christian's blamed it on too much open sex and said it was God's revenge. Back when hot tub places were everywhere, and places to relax, meditate, have a sauna or hot tub and get massages were like open communities, and they all turned into shut downs to keep people from passing on aids to one another. I am glad I was a wild child and young adult, or I would have missed it all. My parents were and are the Christian's, my stepdad is a chauvinist. I think the only sex, my mom really got was the wham, bam, thank you mam, type. She tells me there is more to a relationship then sex, and has had headaches and neckaches for years, usually when it is convenient to avoid life. But she does suck up to my dad and perpetuate his rudeness, and she is rude, and both are confrontative, and controlling. And have always consumed a very SAD diet. I remember reading that, that kind of diet ruins and dulls sex organs.

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Thank you so much Nettle, I am really happy to have found GITMR, and to be able to have so many people who share common interests and this lifestyle!!!

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my dear joy i am sorry to say that think you got it all wrong what i mean to say is that sex is not wham, bam, thank you mam, type helps you to achive super conciness and that leads to enlight ment if done in correct fashion which 99.9 % donot do it
it is a slow process but leads to ultar
pls be in touch

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